Carnival Cruise @ Haiti
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- janne760
food for thought aka speedcrouse for ignorant DIY judges:
How can we be 100% sure this is harmful or even in the slightest way helpful to the island?
imagine all possibilities:
How many people are on that ship?
don't you think at least some of those would collect, do some fundraising?What income could the ship's presence bring? or take?
All the bits help, and serving some "ignorant tourists" on a ship is a more legal and decent way of earning money than stealing, or being a member of the corrupted govt.
tourism = economy
any tiny form of economy is welcome for a country that has close to nothing in terms of income.
THINK
W - I - D - E - R
- janne760
maybe there are pensionado's (do you foreigners get that slang?) on board who saved half their pension for this trip and this is just one of the destinations that was booked because on shore there was a deal to have the laundry done and its contract was signed a long time ago.
same goes for booking the trip.FUCK GUYS.
it is so easy to judge, judge and judge.
BUT WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW?
- version30
i would go directly to a place 100,000 people died instantly and be happy my ticket was "just in time". I, and i assume many others, do not feel the only reason to go somewhere should be an escape. maybe someday to see suffering instead of pics of it might add some perspective. turning your back on that opportunity is blind and willful ignorance.
- could be. as long as you are not in the way of help. personally i think pics should be enough, but to each his own.janne76
- that's kinda what i'm thinking janneversion3
- spoken like a true contrarian.Mimio
- ? i went to oklahoma after the bombing in high school and louisiana after katrina. it's how i amversion3
- i am personally against that, v3. but it's not legally wrong.janne76
- to this day new orleans looks like somewhere not in america,version3
- that's a reality i like knowing though i don't appreciateversion3
- SteveJobs0
if it were me, i'd stay on board during the scheduled stop out of respect for those who's lives are being turned upside down. there's pain and suffering everywhere, so while i'm in no way obligated to stop my life and volunteer every time there's a natural disaster, those who are affected do deserve the respect any of us would like if it were us in those horrible circumstances.
that said, if there was actually something i could do to be productive and help, and not get in anyones way, i don't see how that would make my vacation any less enjoyable.
- DrBombay0
Yeah, I don't think I would go, suit yourself though. I'm not into seeing dead bodies in the street.
- Whilst enjoying a lobster dinner no the Lido deck?Mimio
- WWCSD. -- What Would Captain Stubing do?Mimio
- have you seen this picture yet?
http://pxl2.in/wb6ya…
i would have rather taken itversion3 - No thanks.DrBombay
- Mimio0
The moral dilemma really resides with the cruise line. Re-route the cruise elsewhere and offload all surplus food and clothing to the Haitian relief and move on.
- janne760
*sigh
- BonSeff0
oh janne, you are sooo right, on all accounts, all the time.
- PonyBoy0
*books ticket
- SteveJobs0
how about a really akward charitable project:
re-shooting "I'm on a boat in haiti" with t-pain with proceeds going to charity.
- janne760
i just read the article and the people who are shocked by this, well, i urge you to put down your steak for a week, out of solidarity and do something.
i don't do anything and will wait until it is really needed. millions of dollars were left unspent at the Asian Tsunami disaster. I can't do anything in terms of goods and i am not about to adopt a kid out of sudden emotional impulse (many people in NL do so, and i wonder how wise this is, on such a short notice).
Money and food (et al) aren't the most dire needs,
SECURITY (aka soldiers) to actually GET the help in place is key, together with a strengthened infrastructure.
the airport is overloaded and the control tower out of order.
roads are destroyed etc.
- version30
money solves all problems. it is the only thing needed
money = health, roads, hospitals, working airport, etc.
- gramme0
Well then.
- janne760
i am out of this, even you, v3 is badly informed. sometimes i really think i am talking to a bunch of 16 year olds here.
OUT.
ps. v3, there's tonnes of help waiting to get in, supply/money is not the PRIORITY: security is.
- you'll be back...
... you will.PonyBoy - funny, you agreed with the sentiment on page 1
http://www.qbn.com/t…version3
- you'll be back...
- version30
security is a short term problem and i agree with you on that but if Haiti want s a come uppance, they're going to need millions and millions of real dollars to built an infrastructure and economy. live in your tent joke life all you want but without money, the people there helping will soon be gone and haiti will have a huge mess and their hands out.
- GWARanteed!version3
- that's their own business, they should build a stable political ground. it would be foolish to just pump money into chaos!!janne76
- now is the perfect time to build and employ. if they had money they could use citizens turn them into employees building a hospitalversion3
- a hospital or other needed thingsversion3
- i hope so, but i don't think so.
out now, i got accounting to do.. :(janne76
- Mimio0
//No, the correct action is to follow the moral imperative and have everyone vacation there.
- El_Montr00
QBN: For a better tomorrow...
- SumWurk0
The cruise lines own a private piece of Haiti where they routinely dock. I know because I visited there two years ago. A very lovely place and totally isolated and protected (security-wise) for the "cruisers". Haitians are very nice people. Too bad what happened. Oh, so everyone should stop traveling now to pay their respects?