Kiggen
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- dyspl
looks nice !
good luck with that new studio
- neverblink0
Congratulations on the new studio, Kiggen!
- Super_Black0
Congrats, Bart - and best wishes.
- spraycan0
why use flash for the menu ?
- version30
i say buy http://www.kiggen-helmer.com
- Kiggen0
Thanks, the other side, Helmer is also on QBN under smpl, mostly a lurker tho'
- francoisfido0
why do you label things 'Art Direction' which are not? it's especially misleading with the fashion photogs website--unless of course you were 'Art Directing' on shoots? feels unnecessary / amateurish
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- sour grapesKiggen
- honest questionfrancoisfido
- give your manipulation some character, or present your work honestly--everybody is an 'art director' if they just type it out.francoisfido
- < — !!
— be rational
— not pretentiousindex - Not an art direction, art direction, there is a big difference. If you know me a bit, i'm not fond of titlesKiggen
- not art director, art direction.
Kiggen - be honest--there is no difference. explaining agency hierarchy is not necessary, an art director is a designer.francoisfido
- maybe you could explain on your site what you mean by the titles you're so un-fond of...francoisfido
- there is a big difference, but you are always so stubborn that only your opinion mattersKiggen
- i'm also curious what the difference is, you could type it out below and perhaps i can tell you if i'm any less confused?francoisfido
- you know what nick, go to some more 'art' work at rietveld. I only see you here to bitch aboutKiggen
- other peoples workKiggen
- am i the one bitching?francoisfido
- <— francois is being rational. good points.index
- haha this is funnysmpl
- agreefrancoisfido
- Kiggen0
- nice place!invisiblechamber
- oho..lacie drive. lol.akrokdesign
- Kiggen0
nick:
art directior: a job with a clear hierarchy.
art direction: the art direction of a site, of a magazine, of corporate borchure, doing the not the design but the overall logic, the way the work is presented...- if people are confused, see frankiefido post.Kiggen
- 'overall logic, the way the work is presented' = designfrancoisfido
- Thats your opinion than...Kiggen
- then what do you define as 'design', in the context of how you use the term across your site?francoisfido
- Design = making the art direction happen.jamble
- < sums up my skepticism. if you're 'art directing' and 'designing' both, why confuse the issue in terms?francoisfido
- smpl0
it is art & design direction, it does not say we did the art direction on the shoots? now does it? so what is misleading about that? I did the design, and helped with the selection of the photography shown...
- simple question: what is the difference between 'art direction' and 'design direction'?francoisfido
- art direction is also concept. design is just design. what is so misleading about that?smpl
- 'design is just design' -- i concede this is as far as we'll get. good luck with your new studio...francoisfido
- previous0
who cares?
- pedantic bastardfrancoisfido
- :)smpl
- (gfy)francoisfido
- my apologies, i'm talking to myselffrancoisfido
- ximeraLabs0
Good stuff guys!
My only comments would be that the tag cloud at the bottom of the pages looks a bit unhappy. Same goes for the tags on the projects (a lot of them, I feel, are not necessary).Oh, and a few slightly larger images of the work would be nice.
Now go forth and art-not-direct!
- thanks, it's a bit rough I know.smpl
- and thanks for the constructive feedbacksmpl
- I'm art directing.ximeraLabs
- thanks Tom, very valid, its a work in progress anyway, still have to add alot of projectsKiggen
- utopian0
nice work Bart!
- fibonacci0
Amazingly sparse portfolio, considering you have two designer's bodies of work to choose from.
Makes me think you two are recent graduates or don't have much experience.
- digdre0
good, i see some more work is up.
Can't wait to start internship there! LOL
- dMullins0
@fibonacci: I don't think it's really fair to show work that the team didn't do. Especially if there were other people NOT at the agency involved in said work.
- MarleyMarl0
does nick even do anything creative? i don't think anyone has ever seen his work and didn't he move to amsterdamn just to fry what little brain cells he has left?
- professional massage boarderfrancoisfido
- pretty sure 'nick' goes to school
francoisfido, dives below meaningfrancoisfido - hasn't 'nick' been in school for the past 5 years? must be the remedial program.MarleyMarl
- math is wrong; remedial is right.francoisfido