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- Coffeemaker
sometimes step back and look at graphic design from the perspective and interests in life of someone not being one?
this is hard. but the better you can, the less disappointed you will be and you will find out that most people will regard designers as DTP technicians with a 'fancy' feel for 'pretty' images.
in fact, if you are going to go any further, intellectually, or in dive deeper in whatever clever semantic double layer, people will bounce back and think about ANYthing but design.
in other words, design in the 21st century should only cater our pavlovian mentality, nothing more. Clients will only think they pay extra for it.
Developers will be far better off than designers.
Functionality prevails for most clients, but not in the sense of a "grid", or helvetica. no, to them SEO matters, webforms, email marketing response etc.It's where the money is.
- Coffeemaker0
Discuss...
- climbatree0
if money was no option what would you be doing with your life?
...............cause you will be dead a long time- if you could fly and breathe in space, what would your aunt do?Coffeemaker
- hmmm .good discussion . good threadclimbatree
- cuke4260
lol @ "...with a 'fancy' feel for 'pretty' images."
- ukit0
- meffid0
...please send me a ffffound invite?
- ceiling_cat0
i made movie for you
- I requested that it be disabled. BOOYA!ukit
- this is serious movieceiling_cat
- that was rather awesomeukit
- yeah, well dunceiling_cat
- hahahaCoffeemaker
- Rand0
if it's all the same to you, I will leave that reality to others and continue to lead my life as I choose--occasionally creating, and often delighting in beautiful things
- Rand0
- I don't want to be a plumber, eitherRand
- Can you check out my pipe? It's got a leaky tip.d_rek
- sure, first thing in the morningRand
- hahahaCoffeemaker
- ukit0
Actually seems like the way things are headed the developer could even become obsolete first thanks to better and better CMS technology emerging.
Of course the designer will probably be next to go as Project Managers discover they can just use 99Designs to hire someone in Uzbekistan. Then the Project Manager have to leave when the company realizes her job can just be done by an intern using Microsoft Word. Then the Business Manger. Then all 26 of the VPs. Then the CTO. Then the CEO.
Until finally there is only one person left. Me.
- mydo0
I took a few minutes to work out what you mean by "our pavlovian mentality" regarding design. and apart from thinking this is a fucking poncey thing to say, i think this is precisely why designers have and always will play such an important roll.
if our pavlovian mentality is: we have been pre conditioned to make judgement on design based on what we've seen and been sold before - it's imperative that designers understand what they're doing. white packaging with 48 point black helvetica may look cool but it's not going to sell cornflakes.
As the world becomes saturated with DTP and 5 year olds that have mastered inDesign, a good designer that can make sense of information and make a product or service stand out will be worth more than he ever has.
*logs off QBN
*logs onto monstertemplates.com
*changes logo
*finishes work- white packaging with 48 point black helvetica might sell cornflakes if the messaging is right_salisae_
- The kind of design mydo's talking about doesn't have a message though :)dMullins
- i see i see.. and yes, you got the pavlovian thing right...Coffeemaker
- TheBlueOne0
makin' the coffee...
- mydo0
i'm also pleased there is a discussion on here better than LOLcats FFFFUCKING FFFFOUND
- woah there, johnny revolution.TheBlueOne
- < hahaha TBOukit
- Corvo20
"most people will regard designers as DTP technicians with a 'fancy' feel for 'pretty' images".
And rightly so. Just look at what most designers say and do.
- MrT0
We appear to be assuming the design you're stepping back from is just web design... it's a sad future if that's the only design left.
- Corvo20
The advertising world with it's horrid terminology and its self-deceiving theories took over the honest and simple profession of drafting, organizing information and executing a display in a pleasant manner. In the end it's all there is to it and that is what you think about when you're doing it.
- mydo0
"what you think about when you're doing it"
discuss.
- Coffeemaker0
doing what?
- skt0
konik?
- lukus_W0
1. Advertising involves lying to people to shift product.
2. Marketing ultimately involves creating a low-risk / high-gain advertising strategy. Innovation is always going to involve a risk. Intelligence and subtlety doesn't always equate to gain.
3. Designers are generally employed by advertising and marketers.How can there possibly be a happy ending from that mix?
To ensure you have a happy life, be realistic -> accept this harsh reality. You don't need to get everything from your job... as long as you can experiment and innovate with _some_ projects (even if they are personal), and as long as you still feel excited by _some_ of the work, you're doing well imo.
I'm imagine that a large majority of people have (what they'd consider to be) shit jobs that they dislike -> I think lots of designers have it reasonably good.