eyeka design competition
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- 23kon0
My closing line was written after a line that i ended up deleting before posting and it was about client-designer relationships and these competitions take that away.
So thats what I meant bottlerocket, appologies.
- Eyekanico0
hey guys, why so much hate. to respond quickly to some arguments:
i dont make the decsion, the lcient or agency does... just like real life ;-)
2nd 50 pounds? all the competitions are free... thank god, i know how much time and effort these can deman.
3rd nobody is forcing you to join... i didn"t start this topic, i'm just here beacause someone asked a question. apparently everyone knows better and no one wants to discuss. the best for you is to go ask those 60 000 people directly
'th i'm not promising anyone can live off doing competition... if you have time and passion and one day a theme tempts you, stop thinking every one is out to get you , try it out- and the 'hate' phrase gets wheeled out....this thread takes a turn for the predictablethebottlerocket
- ?Eyekanico
- Go ahead and have a re-read of previous posts. I think you've missed something.Gucci
- ********0
C O M P L E T E B U L L S H I T
- nice having a discussion with you lukus ;-)Eyekanico
- this is just another crowdspring.********
- shitehawke0
How can you realistically ask 'why so much hate?' when everyone who posted gave you reasons why this is a a bad thing, or did you not bother to read anone elses posts?
You cannot, one iota, claim to have nothing to do with it when you SET UP THE SITE which promotes the very business model which slowly erodes the industry.
- ********0
I'm sorry Eyekanico, but I'm this type of site of genuinely makes me angry.
Saying that 'nobody is forcing you to join' is disingenuous. That's really not the issue. I think that these sites exploit the good will of designers; the site is facilitating a culture of speculative work and I find it insulting. Especially since we're living in such harsh economic times.
- *but this type of site genuinely makes me angry.********
- (so angry i couldn't type in a sentence)********
- its ok chief, we all feel like that.
* pats shoulder reassuringly.shitehawke
- *but this type of site genuinely makes me angry.
- Eyekanico0
ok lukus, no pb, i get it ;)
of course i'm being the devil's advocate here... i mean most of you guys are pros, and the site is not , i say it again, a way for brands to get cheap ads and steal your jobs.Just as an example we pay a freelance a hefty price for every contest page... we don't ask anyone in our community to do it for 100$ ;-)
another example, in 2 years, more than 200 000euros have been given out in prizes. we also have a contest (in french) that has 110 000€ give away right now, just for a 20 sec webcam testimony for an ISP...not a motion design ad where you spend weeks of editing on.
We just partnered with the Portable Film festival, and the winner's will close the ceremony and be Featured everywhere... isn't that a good shot?Some of the guys guys who win are pros, have other command jobs, but like competitions, some are students, some are amateurs, some get postive feedback from other guys on site, some get lynched. Some win and stay, other get mad at the clients choices and leave...
Since i do work for Eyeka, i'm never going to be able to convince any of you, that's why i really urge you to ask winners and loosers on site...and you'll get postive and negative feedback, as always. i could send you mails of guys i talk to, but that would be too easy for me ;)
- listen it does sound better than some, but the basic principal I'm sorry, but it's bad for uskelpie
- Eyekanico0
Oh yeah, we also did the 48 hour film project
- bedc0
there's a "price" to pay to participate in this contest what?!!.... check the copy!
- doesnotexist0
hahaha this is great
- johndiggity0
unfortunately this is the future of things. as there's more and more interaction with brands and their consumers, there will be more of a chance to personalize a brand, and for the brand to leverage their followers for ideas.
fortunately (for us here anyway) sites like crowdspring and eyeka will fall by the wayside as they only serve as middle-men—aggregating hobbyists looking for cash. as social networks get more sophisticated, brands will be able to reach out to their followers themselves—the people who care deeply enough about the brand to tell others—rather than some 19 year old in romania with a copy of photoshop. in the end, passion, not a quick buck will win out.
- Eyekanico0
what we do is nothing like crowdspring. as johnd says, the future of things is not push ads anymore, it's the brand wanting feedback from their potential/or not customers... but just from people. They'll try to understand us before selling anything
- ideaist0
Advertising will be dead in 10 years... People will tire of having their senses bullied day in/out and all they have to do to make it a reality is look away...
- Shaney0
p.s plenty of talented people in Romania, 19 or otherwise.
- patronising twatShaney
- you missed the pointdoesnotexist
- not surprisedShaney
- :-Ddoesnotexist
- spendogg0
i wanna start crowdsourcing my auto mechanic needs
- johndiggity0
look at almost any shoe collaboration between a major brand like nike or reebok and a street artist or designer. that is what the future will be like. do you think brands will go through a 3rd party site like eyeka to find these people? or do you think they will look within their own network?
- the latter.doesnotexist
- there's entirely enough space for many models to co exist...Eyekanico
- Gucci0
Question: If you're adamant that this site is not simply a way for a companies to get cheap design work done, what is it designed to do from a company's perspective?
What's drawing them there?
I'm asking for a completely honest *one sentence answer* – not rhetoric.
- johndiggity0
the concept of a rich talent pool and below market pricing are ostensibly what's drawing companies there. exposure seems to be the main draw for the designers participating. if companies really think they are undertaking any type of great social interaction by posting contests on these sites, then they clearly do not understand the concept of social marketing or brand building. the backlash alone caused by this type of behavior should be proof enough.
- john, we don't have 40$ brief with a 200$ prize like crowdspring... it's from 2500$ to 15 000$ for the winner... depending on the contestEyekanico
- jimbojones0
Meh, if the brands want the ordinary people to design their shit, put a notice on the site: "designers are not wanted here + only cracked Photoshop allowed".
But I guess the brands still want their stuff to look cool, which leads them to *gasp* designers, which are then *doublegasp* working for free, or almost free.
These contests all work like this: you spend 5 hours making something, you win and you get like $20/hour - yay!
You spend 15 minutes making something, and it's pure luck then because actually clients pick every shit offered, yay again.Ah, GFY.