Perch CMS
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- e-wo0
Just installed Perch on a <20 page client site. Best CMS experience I've had yet. I feel about 300% more confident letting a client edit through this over Wordpress, etc.
- doktornomore0
I've worked both Documentum and FileNet and was the Canadian tech/implementation rep for Xerox/Docushare.
Wasn't sure if you were managing the client's CMS for them or setting them up with their own CMS. If latter, and If they have a relationship with Xerox, take a peek here: http://docushare.xerox.com/produ…
Good luck!
- trooperbill0
pft! paid cms's are sooo 2009 lol
- nb0
---------- Three Years Later ---------
Hey, anyone using Perch recently care to discuss how well it's been working for them?
I'm sick of bloaty, slow Wordpress. I'm at a point where I ALMOST want to build my own CMS. I know it will be very difficult (I've worked on one before) but it would allow me freedom to let me do what I want without all the extra hoops and bloat of every other CMS out there. I want ABSOLUTE simplicity for the client, and I don't want them to be able to change everything, because they don't know what they're doing and they break it anyway. They just need the most basic of updating and they can call me if they need design changes, etc.
I feel there are two major problems with every CMS on the market today. First, if it's one of the big guys (Wordpress, Drupal, etc) it is designed to do everything under the sun. That's great for getting market share, but it's too bloated for my clients. They don't get it, it's overwhelming to them.
The second major problem (and this seems to apply to the niche CMS offerings) is that they are designed for web designers or developers. I understand this, because it's usually the designer or developer shopping around for a CMS and ultimately deciding for their clients. For example, a CMS that advertises as "very easy to implement! No coding, just add these tags!" is not helpful. I need it to be easy for the end user, not easy for me to implement.
It seems to me that the best CMS would be the one designed to make life easiest for the client. Those uneducated masses that need to update their site or post an article. Those are the people using it!
I want inline editing, and I want people to be able to click around their site and maybe right click and choose "Edit This." That kind of simplicity.
Anyway, looking at Perch seems like the closest thing to what I want, and could save me the hassle of building my own. Care to comment? Other suggestions? Do not say Concrete5.
- An interesting article on why Perch doesn't have inline editing... http://allinthehead.…nb
- Not sure I agree with all the assumptions made, but it's nice to see an explanation.nb
- I've been using concrete5 based on recommendations from people here years ago. Curious what your issues have been with c5 and the client experience?Cosmodrome
- Ya c5 is pretty good. Why the hate?BabySnakes
- Sorry, I don't hate it. It's good! *see post below*nb
- This has inline editing http://www.sitefinit… but it's insanely expensive.voiceof
- ETM0
For small sites I use CMS Made Simple.
http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/For medium and large sites I use ExpressionEngine:
https://ellislab.com/expressione…Both give me good control and sandboxing the client in.
Been using Craft a little bit, but don;t have enough real experience for a solid opinion yet:
https://buildwithcraft.com/
- Continuity3
'I want inline editing, and I want people to be able to click around their site and maybe right click and choose "Edit This." That kind of simplicity.'
'Do not say Concrete5.'
Yeah, well, the long and the short of it is that if you want 'That kind of simplicity', then you want concrete5. Easy as that.
c5 is caveman-stupid to set up, and yurimon-stupid to edit once your site's up. It's all the inline editing goodness you want.
- monNom0
squarespace....
- falcadia0
Timely, I used perch on a few client sites about 3 years ago. Loved it because I could retro fit static sites and it was easy to create custom post templates. Clean minimal admin etc. Haven't use it since then.
About a week ago, I decided I was tired of wp for my personal site and upgraded one of my old perch licenses to v2. Took a few hours to install and remember how it all works again.
It has its quirks like anything else but so easy to make any type of layout editable.
The new "perch blocks" feature is always something I thought has been missing from most cms systems. Especially useful for the trendy long scroll sites.
- nb0
Oh, I don't hate Concrete5. It's pretty good. I guess I just meant that I've used it and was half-expecting everyone to respond with it as my solution.
I've noticed that my clients can't keep it together with c5. I look at the site a week after they have it and it's full of empty heading tags and formatting tags. They don't want to switch to code view and they often just use Enter and Backspace until the formatting works. That's my experience, anyway.
Maybe I'm being too demanding and should drop the idea of inline. Focus on simplicity.
- Had plenty of the same experience. 5.6 would paste in all the formatting from Word unless they selected the paste from word option. Which was never.Cosmodrome
- Have you tried 5.7 yet? It's much improved in that regard.Cosmodrome
- err0