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- CygnusZero4
Well this is going well.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_ko…
If our government doesn't have a covert plan in place to assassinate this guy, then we aren't really handling this situation properly.
- GeorgesII0
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we American patriots have the right to life or death on anyone that disagree with us, dictator or not.
then you wonder why everyone loves you- That was deep.CygnusZero4
- as deep as wishing for the assassination of another human being, this ain't 24 dude, this is real lifeGeorgesII
- Yeah your right, the US has never tried to assassinate another dictator (see: Castro).CygnusZero4
- CygnusZero40
If you dont think this guy is out of control then you just sit back and pretend nothing is wrong.
- The US supports some pact not to assassinate country leaders. ever since they failed to get castro, i believe...rusty_ace
- GeorgesII0
are you nuts,
he didn't started 2 wars and bankrupted the world economy.- And what does that have to do with a country breaking a fundamental rule of the world?CygnusZero4
- and as much as I dislike him, I think you'd be hard-pressed to show how Bush destroyed the world's economyidentity
- GeorgesII0
where's drgss when I need him!!!
- Nairn0
We are the West. Our raison d'etre is to drag the rest of the hapless races on this planet kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
Then to have all those races shit on us for the next thousand years.
- GeorgesII0
And what does that have to do with a country breaking a fundamental rule of the world?
what is that rule?- Yeah you arent the brightest are you?CygnusZero4
- did they talk about fight clubBattleAxe
- CygnusZero40
In case you didnt know this, there are rules in this world that most countries have agreed upon. Testing nuclear weapons breaks one of them.
- TheBlueOne0
NK is mostly hot air. It's an annoyance. Sure he has a few crude atomic bombs, but no delivery system. In a conventional event, in the short term Seoul would get messed up pretty bad, but it's a no win. NK army has no food, no supplies, although they can parade around with near-obsolete weapons in a square quite well. China will not have their back if they continue to be the assholes they are currently being. They are simply a small, contained, controllable cancer. Knocking off Kim Jong-Il would do nothing, as he has two sons in the wings, almost equally nutzoid, plus the rest of the ruling junta is two dozen geriatric generals. Keep control of the guy, keep the diplomatic pressure up and NK will go the way of East Germany in under a decade. Unless you want to risk Seoul, and adding a probably quickly re-militarized Japan to the Asian mid-term political equation.
- +1: there's not an extreme real threat of this guy harming the US. The rest can be handled by China.free_
- Orbit0
You think its bad now, wait until his 26 year old son takes charge.
- Autokern0
Oh look a calm internet debate where reasonable people express different points of view without insulting each others, but trying to listen and understand what the other has to say.
And I thought that the Internet was full of trolls... how naive of me.
- It's not a point of view. The guy is breaking a rule that has been in place for many decades.CygnusZero4
- I'm waiting to receive on my email your a scan of your degree in international relationships.Autokern
- lolGeorgesII
- Doesnt take a degree to know what people can and cant do in this world.CygnusZero4
- what about making up a rule as you go A'la Bush DoctrineBattleAxe
- Nairn0
Part of me wants this tinpot hackocrat to just go a little Too Far, then have the rest of the world turn its back whilst the US engages in the quickest, most absolutely overwhelming remote war, over in mere minutes - PyongYang a glassy basin, smouldering meekly in the red afterglow of holocaust.
Pity about the civilians, mind.
- He's getting close. Threatening us for trying to keep the world safe is a dangerous affair.CygnusZero4
- What do you mean "civillians"?
Oh wait, do you mean the collateral?Orbit - Of course! How silly of me to personalise their existence with such intimate terminology. Collateral it is.Nairn
- *bliss*
collateral IT is
vs
civilians THEY areNairn - Orwell would be proud.Nairn
- TheBlueOne0
Besides, he got his wool panties in a bunch because Iran is getting all the press time...
- GeorgesII0
cignus, I lived in korea for a good part of my teen years, I believe on the subject I may know one or two things more than you think.
the nuclear proliferation act is a good thing but you obviously don't know anything about it because you think the world obeys to rules...
if you want to play this game why don't you show the same harshness towards the state of Israel, they never signed it and posses more nukes than NK, India, Pakistan, Iran, etc combined
I guess you never heard of Mordechai Vanunu .yeah I'm a stupid cunt, I know it, but I don't bias depending if they are friends or not, everyone should play by the same rules if we want to play fair
- Rules are only worthwhile whilst they're in our favour. Politics 101.Nairn
- You cannot test nuclear weapons. End of story. Argue that all you want, but most of the world agree with that, and will take action if you do.CygnusZero4
- and if you do test them, it's going to cause a problem. Not sure what about that is tough to understand.CygnusZero4
- Israel is another problem certainly, but you can't equate NK to Israel in terms of sane governance.TheBlueOne
- nope, but it terms of law, if we want to talk about rules and law, they are breaking them.GeorgesII
- if Isreal didnt have those nukes, you would be looking at a country divided amongst Syria and Iran right nowidentity
- GeorgesII0
are you getrefresh? you have the same debating skills of Glen Beck
- Yep, keep dancing around the facts. You may want to read this page.
http://en.wikipedia.…CygnusZero4
- Yep, keep dancing around the facts. You may want to read this page.
- CygnusZero40
- Dont know why that link doesnt work.CygnusZero4
- It would be great to overlay Lady Gaga's world tour schedule on that UN development timeline.Orbit
- Orbit0
One things for sure, its going to take all the collective debating skills of QBN to resolve this deeply troubling political schism.
- Yes, I'll book the meeting room and get the coffee started.TheBlueOne
- Please make sure its Fair Trade coffee this time TBO.Orbit
- Dont forget the bagels. I'm starving.CygnusZero4
- GeorgesII0
Hey Glenrefresh,
seriously, don't want to sound harsh but you're out of your league there.
first question, did NK ever signed the treaty?
No, the debate is over. I won
- TheBlueOne0
"North Korea warned Wednesday of a "thousand-fold" military retaliation against the U.S. and its allies if provoked, the latest threat in a drumbeat of rhetoric in defense of its rogue nuclear program."
Seriously? Thousand-fold? With what army? The one that would be laying dead all over NK? This guy is a joke.
- its a cry for attention, let them cry, they know they ain't got shit, even china told them to stfuGeorgesII
- GeorgesII0
^ exactly, they have been doing this for decades,
2 trains full of food and a case of whisky and its over