designing websites
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- mistermik0
photoshop>someoneelsesproblem
- designbot0
To answer your question a bit more, it depends on the type of site you are creating. If you are creating an CSS/HTML site, obviously you wouldn't use Flash to design it. In fact, there seems to be a general consensus here that designing in Flash is usually not the way to go.
Photoshop is a pretty good tool to layout sites, and slice up to be converted to CSS/HTML. It's also works pretty good for laying out and exporting your graphics into Flash. Other tools like Fireworks seem to integrate with Flash a little better. Illustrator may arguably be a little bit better for flash as well since both are vector based. Personally, I always use Photoshop regardless of the type of site. But I also usually start on paper which saves a ton of time.
- ********0
I find flash has a pretty loose interpretation of a pixel and how it should behave. Always pisses me off doing anything in that "thing"...
- yeah especially text rendering...always looks horrible.designbot
- if yr text looks bad in flash you need to learn moremaximillion_
- you can make it look ok, but everyone knows Flash text = shite.designbot
- rubbish - there are so many antialising options now.maximillion_
- WeLoveNoise0
just use an etcha-sketch
- TheBlueOne0
Sometimes I start with a sketch on paper, sometimes with illustrator and sometime I just start with code...or any combination of the above...
- how the hell do u design a concept with codeWeLoveNoise
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- kelpie0
^exactly moth...
For me it depends on the end environment for the site - is it an html site, using exact pixel co-ordinates and gifs/jogs? then design in a rsater environment and use photoshop, its basically like drawing on a monitor...
If its a flash site with layered objects and rendered in vectors then probably Illy would be best...
In Design then pass it on to a programmer? that just sounds cruel and inappropriate to me, no matter a lot of code guys hold bad designer grudges...
- Stugoo0
ah relief,
i though i was fighting against the current, 75% of the designers Im working with now use flash because "its better for layout" however I feel that it has a tendancy to knock things to 0.1 of a pixel so I'm left fighting with a funny margin to get it pixel perfect.Not to mention updating a website, I would have to rebuild the the site in PS/Illy to get my exports correct. thereby adding a couple of days of reworking compositions and tweaking gradients.
PS & Illy all the way. Slices forever.
also i hate it when I get rastered gradients in PS and have to recreate it or ammend a colour for a rollover.... plesase use non destructive layers...
- lvl_130
I will just reiterate what a lot of you have already said: InDesign should not be used while designing a website. plain and simple.
sketch>photoshop/illustrator>fla...
NO INDESIGN!
- felizfeliz0
paper first, then...
if it's going to be a Flash site, might as well do it in flash, you can be more precise by positioning things at absolute pixels in the 'info' panel. or by setting up your grid to 'always snap' and turning of the the other 'snap to options'.
As you design you can set everything out already in to movieclips, and then it cuts your build time in half.
if you are using a particular style for all the boxes or buttons on your site, you can quickly make one as a movieclip with scale-9. then use it for all of the rest and when you need to change the style, you change the one movieclip and can instantly see the change across the whole design. Taking it a step further, you can also design the button rollover states/motion at the same time and get a feel for how the site 'interacts'. and you can start to program the site dynamics if it's to be a liquid layout, and so it helps inform your design process.
if the site is going to use lots of bitmaps/photos as the design and not using vectors then photoshop.
and if it's not flash:
- I never found drawter usable for anything.. how do you use it for design?rafalski
- modern0
"design will be done in code one day, by compiled code."
Perhaps:
http://research.nodebox.net/inde…
- WrappedInBooks0
Illustrator>Flash. Vector = less file weight
- TheBlueOne0
@ WeLoveNoise In answer to your question in your note above to my post
apparenlty the qube masters will not let me link to the page in which would answer your query due to the nature of it's content. So I will email you instead.
- ********0
designing in flash... nom nom nom nom nom
- Jaline0
Mind > HTML
- Mind > CodeJaline
- I have never used anything else to design the overall layout (even PS). Probably should one day...Jaline
- Nah..i think you're better off the way you're doing itTheBlueOne
- *high fiveJaline
- uan0
brain -> paper(scribble)/word(text it) -> photoshop(to layout the elements) -> paper(to have a reference on the desk and scribble, note stuff on it) -> web(xhtml,css,php,flash,...whate... technology is necessary and accessible to produce it)
- rafalski0
How do you place body text in Photoshop website comps?
None of the antialiasing settings available reflect browser AA, everything looks so non-web. It is different in Windows/OSX (looks a tad better on the Mac) but still far from what browsers/OS antialias like.
- It's pretty close if you use a web-safe font with no AA.designbot
- It was easy in the older days, today's OS' antialias by default and non-antialiased text looks awkward.rafalski
- use 'sharp' and it gets closeish to windows smoothing. I wouldn;t say this was a reason to use a different package tthoughkelpie
- websave fonts with no AA too. doesnt matter that it doesnt look 100% like web, because you know it will be html. layout to define position, size, blocks.uan
- I use either sharp or none, but it bothers me.. it does change the lookrafalski
- maplesyruppopcicle0
I like to design my brochures and packaging in Flash then move into Corel for my prepress then bind my projects with Powerpoint.