homeless rant
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- Anders0
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is a hobo sign for 'Dont give up'
- vespa0
righto i'm off to spend the rest of the day playing pop tunes in a smelly cheap rehearsal room for no reason other than i enjoy it, l8tors kids! have fun at work mwahahaaaa
- modern0
If a guy comes up to you on Shoreditch High Street and shows you his fucked up bleeding arm and needs money to go on the bus to the hospital, don't give him anything.
Seen him on a morning scratching the fuck out of it with a pinWish people would stop giving them money, if we all agree never to give tramps money they'll either die off or get a fucking job, saw some fucking suits giving a tramp some the other day fucking idiots.
- there are two guys in spitalfields who take turns with one crutch and one bike. i've seen them do the swap. really annoying.paraselene
- frustrating...paraselene
- roundabout0
I spoke to allot homeless people when I worked in London and hand to get a train into London Victoria for 7 long bloody years. Most of the homeless I spoke to where just like you and me, but life got on top of them all, and some of the storeys I heard where bloody horrible. One trap lost his hole family in house fire, 3 kids, and wife, successful business man so he said, lost the lot drinking his pain away.
I did some work for a lawyer about 10 years ago and there where allot of homeless people about is offices, he pointed out to me that some of the people on the street where his friend when he first started out in the business, over time pressure built up and they had a nevus brake down, end up loosing his family, and then his home.
Don't just look at these people and think there looser for the sake of it, life has allot in-store for us all, and believe me it a fine line we all walk.
- DrBombay0
many of us are about 2 pay checks away from being homeless ourselves. just saying...
- kalkal0
I think people dislike seeing the homeless because its a peak of what might be in store for them if things take a turn for the worse in their own life...
- DrBombay0
this guy, epete is a fucking idiot.
he says that "there is help out there for these people" but then in another thread will say there should be no government hand outs.
Your entire worldview is a contradiction. i wish homelessness on you.
- moth0
Considering my comfortable existence, I maintain a sincere drink habit which is probably not entirely healthy. It's not a huge stretch of the imagination for me to see myself slide of the ladder if I lost most of the things I love and was generally down on my luck.
I have plenty of friends and family which I know I can depend on before a pavement makes for a home. But if I were to remove all that...... that doesn't bare thinking about.
2 pay checks away indeed.
- hear, hear.paraselene
- Cool. I'm gonna crash on your sofa for a few weeks!moth
- chossy0
Couple of my old pals ended up on the streets for a while fortunatley they got things back together and managed to reconcile things with family and friends. They chose to do what they did as they said it was a way of escaping everyone and everything they knew. Lucky they had a strong enough family and friends to go back to.
- max_prophet0
what an ignorant, privileged cunt this McShite kid is
- cashfaced0
The Famous Bushman from San Francisco...makes 60k a year
- mcLeod0
its interesting to see how you all assume you know how I think. sure the initial post was worded harshly, but don't assume I am some Lebowski type who hates all homeless. My uncle was homeless and he was perfectly sane and drug free. he was just lazy and couldn't hold a job. I take it on a case by case basis. I have helped the helpless countless times but when I see perfectly able people not taking any initiative it breaks my heart, and whether its for compassionate reasons or selfish ones I just don't want to see it.
I truly thank all of you for all of your points (save for the useless insults on my character)
- Wolfboy0
When I was at University I kind of became a bit more right wing towards homeless people. I studied in Falmouth down in Cornwall and in the late spring when weather finally turns nice it is one of the most beautiful places to be in England.
And every spring there would be an influx of homeless people that would suddenly appear. They would sleep on the piers and I think on the beaches, drinking cheap booze and begging. But non of them seemed to have Cornish accents, they were making the effort to travel to Cornwall to be homeless in nicer surroundings.
Now on the surface that sounds kind of reasonable, everyone wants to have nice surroundings right? But I always thought (and still do) it can't be easy to get that far in to Cornwall with next to no money so they must have made quite an effort to do this every year. Which to me means it's a choice to live like that, they had the drive and the motivation to live in a certain place at a certain time but no motivation to earn a living - instead they want to beg, take money from others. I could just never see why I should work hard, get myself into debt as a student and give them money to drink and hang out on a beach.
- tis the scrumpy me boy. Wood Lane posse huhmax_prophet
- sure am, I was there at the turn of the century. It's getting scarily close to being 10 years since I left.Wolfboy
- designbot0
I generally never give money to homeless people, but I always take each situation case by case and use discretion. Like some of the stories I see above not all homeless people have the same story. When you see them everyday it is easy to grow cold, and even get annoyed that they are asking for money. I think we should all have compassion for them. Jesus himself had compassion for, and even healed many people that would have been considered bums or hobos in his day.
My thinking is my money would be much more beneficial if I give it to a charity with low overhead that helps people who are homeless. Often times they will adress the real issues in the persons life to get them back on their feet. Simply handing someone a wad of cash is not going to fix the deeper issues that they almost always have, and thus often times even contributes to worsen their problems.
One other idea (never had the courage to do this....yet) that is somewhat radical but I think would be better than handing over money is this...get to know the homeless person. Buy lunch for them and sit down and talk face to face to them. I can only imagine they are so used to being treated like shit that for someone to actually aknowledge them as a fellow human being would really impact them. To let them know that someone actually cares about them would probably be pretty profound. You could get to know them and find out exactly how you could best help them.
- locustsloth0
The fact is you DON'T have to give them money. If you feel like it's their fault that they are in the situation they are in (an amazing determination since you probably see an average of 60sec of their life), ignore them, don't give them money. If they are doing something illegal, like defiling your residence (as in the druggie in the basement story a couple pages back) or stealing, you call police, like you would for any other person, homeless or not.
But to take up the righteous attitude that they shouldn't besmirch your vision, and all this apparent anger towards them signals something is up with YOU. Either you resent the fact that they are able to exist without the constraints that you live with, as has been mentioned here (ignoring, of course, that they have a multitude of constraints of their own) or the fear of becoming them is so great that you want to push them away, get them out of your sight so the specter of you ending up in that situation can't cross your mind. There have been times in my life where i felt this way and it's just like any other fear, you can't successfully stuff it down or pack it away unless you deal with it head on.Otherwise, If they biggest offense is making you "sick of seeing them", live and let live. If you really want to help, don't call the cops, buy them a sandwich or a gallon of water.
- Nairn0
EAT THE POOR.
- (Ensure meat is cooked through before consumption)Nairn
- LOLlocustsloth
- doesnotexist0
homelessness is a state of mind
- craighooper0
Regarding the original thread post...
Yes, there is a reason why they have become what they have. Have some compassion—I highly doubt they want to be in the situation they are in. It's a nasty symptom of modern life. There were WAY less homeless people in the 1960's, 70's, and early 80's. Why is this? Because of government cut-backs and hospital closures across North America—the result—a flood of mentally ill people walking the streets.
It's fucking tragic—and we can fix it. We can fly into space, we can feed, clothe, and house these human beings.
