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- akrokdesign0
i think the 1st time i saw his work was a cpluuuuuv. that was before my QBN days or early days. o'boy. long time ago. hah.
he's dirty good.
- francoisfido0
Hey look, another kdu schmuck...
- There are actually some good designers who are a part of that community.Jaline
- hhahakinkyform
- They may be annoying, but it doesn't take everything away from a few of their pieces.Jaline
- what do you know about good design?francoisfido
- more than you , nick.tank02
- moamoa0
you guys are to harsh, the kiddo is 19, and talented if you ask me.
I can show you at least 5 works from experimental jetset which are 90% inspired/copied from other designers.
also the Puma stuff was done 100 times before.
selfserive is not the inventor of this kind of type work.I riped TDC & Brockmann when I started with design...
hallo he is 19!
- sikma0
i agree with you guys. having your work ripped off and seeing someone else take credit is terrible. and i hope it doesn't happen to me or anyone else.
but like i said before none of this stuff really says "rip" to me. it just looks like someone who spent all day on ffffound looking for inspiration.
- sikma0
agreed 19 is crazy young to have this amount of work under his belt. regardless if it's "inspired" or not.
i'm now thinking of what i accomplished when i was 19. and it's nothing to brag about.
- NotByHand0
I totally agree with Moamoa and Tank... not that you guys aren't bringing up valid points about 'rips' and such.
The fine line between 'inspiration' and 'plagarism' is always (and will always be) on of the most debated issues amongst creatives.
The dude is 19 - not that it's an excuse to steal others material.
But 'finding your own style' is partly done through exploration and elaboration of other people's work/concepts.
I guess I don't understand how the harsh dissing through an exposure of his entire portfolio is going to help him.
- pepe0
in retrospect to my earlier comment, the one portion i missed was that it gets into sticky water if/when the emulation is for a paid client in regards to laws etc for the worse.
- airey0
yeah, a rip is what happened in the batesole incident where a studio was actually using other designers work in their folio.
none of the designs shown before this are anything but very commonly used methods / styles / visual cliches, to me anyway.
i think fate_ raised a valid point in that an issue lies in the representation of someone's skills and folio. this is where the designers folio 'should' work though, in that the quality of the delivery is obvious straight away.
along this line, does anyone else struggle with the concept of people using finished designs in their folio when they were only a part of a team? i've seen great work shown as folio when i know the people showing it played a very minor role (like was a mac monkey on a financial section yet shows the whole annual report as their work). this is an even more grey area to me.
- fate_0
Airey, YES, that is a huge pet peeve of mine.
It's always so weird whenever the HyperIsland students graduate and suddenly 24 people are all taking credit for the same piece of work. You know only 2 or 3 design geeks actually came up with and put together those pieces.
- I wonder that all the time too. What is the etiquette...Jaline
- fate_0
Merry Christmas.
- fate_0
- lol, you always come by for these types of things.Jaline
- who made the Puma ads btw?max_prophet
- Not Ravi. :)fate_
- typist0
i am totally fine with personal exploration for self-learning, but take that to a commercial level and get paid is another issue.
- francoisfido0
you people,
need to spend less time on the internet.
- francoisfido0
Dear stupids,
EJ, like Peter Saville are masters of appropriation, for the most part they are able to manipulate the cliché into something new. The old "it's not what you take, it's where you take it." The point here is that these people expand, re-interpret, reflexively bend-back upon an idea which has already been articulated.
Lissitzky to JMB is an influence even further from the point of discussion. In this case it's about aesthetic ideas transmuting through time, space and context.
The point being addressed here is a body of work which is flagrantly derivative. A young person who is taking clichés and simply re-enforcing their ineffectiveness. It's the propagation of this fucked-up approach which will be the magnificent ruin of YOU all.
- Dear stupids was a nice touch.amongthemasses
- The Stupids were a great punk band whats your poing ? ... also francoisfido has a point .. + 1
stinger - that last sentence was a little too dramatic. i am quite happy lately with what i do.janne76
- oh yes, just like the blog thrread. that is how nick refers to anyone below his intellect.janne76
- yes, but who the fuck cares? jesus, frank, get some work done.janne76
- max_prophet0
curiously I produced ad concepts for an insurance company that sponsors sports events very similar to those in 2006.
- you are my heroskt
- I fucking should be you lucozade guzzling fag hagmax_prophet
- pfft, poor mans irn bru.skt
- oh so you're wealthy now you live in beverley hills, that's 'how you roll' know is it?max_prophet
- you used to be alrightmax_prophet
- oh wait a sec, no that was someone else.max_prophet
- the holiday season* really does bring out the best in you.skt
- *that's what the call it here you fucking peasant.skt
- I bet you have biscuits and gravy for brekkie now too eh? Biscuits and gravy!! not biscuits and not gravy!max_prophet
- mugs!max_prophet
- HAHAHAHA. My Favourite sidenotes EVA.Horp
- nessdog0
Actually stealing someone's work (like batesole) is WRONG, but being inspired by something is a totally different thing. Lots of people come up with the same ideas / like the look of the same stuff. 3/4 of the people on this site with online folios have stuff I've seen before somewhere. Get over yourselves!
- however, as a client I'd be pissed off to pay for a job, have it go into production and then find an 'original'.max_prophet
- not too good for your brand image is it, to be identified as what could be construed as copying?max_prophet
- but he's only 19, so we'll cut him some slack.max_prophet
- *gets over selfmax_prophet
- i'm talking inspired by.. not copied. I've had loads of clients want something similar to something they've seen before.nessdog
- xxxnessdog
- digdre0
LOL
- digdre0
kid's got spunk
- tank020
Dear Nick,
You do have a point, but Peter Saville copied Tsichold to the letter
in his early years, you know when he was around 18-19...Later when he became a more self aware, he came up with a more diverse style that takes elements from all kinds fields like pop, culture & science.
A designers needs this phase, to became aware of a diversity of styles. He did it, i did it and probably you did it to.Its what Robert Bringhurst calls 'Preying on your own past'.
- tank seriously look at the references that fate posted. I mean are you blind?amongthemasses
- and aren't you supposed to be working?amongthemasses
- i am working, but i've been working since 10 in the morning, its 1.30 at night here, i'm allowed some downtime.tank02
- NO, BART...
GET YOUR ASS BACK TO WORK... NOW... ;)NotByHand - stop the whining! who the fuck CARES?janne76