God is quite busy
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- jedipunk0
God's very nature is love, ever since Adam gave his God given authority over to satan (making satan god of this world, forcing mankind to live under the curse of the law), God set in motion His plan to restore mankind to relationship with Him.
At the death and resurrection of His son Jesus, the price was paid and the curse of the law was broken because Jesus was made a curse for us. And now the blessing of God can be on anyone who chooses to believe on the name of Jesus.
God loves you (despite the way some of us Christians may have behaved... and to which we are accountable for), but make no mistake... Satan is the one that hates you and would love to see you dead and buried.
I would love to be giving all of you high fives at the return of my Lord Jesus, but the decision to accept or reject Jesus is for you to make, our commission as Christians is to spread the Gospel so that everyone can have the opportunity hear of Jesus and make a choice.
God bless
- all fair.. sounds nice and well..
i still have a hard time buying it.. but i respect you.janne76 - god spit out Adam from his "vagina in the sky", wet from birth. Adam then joined the sith. Get it now?bliznutty
- I can understand where you're coming from. The great thing about relationship with Christ is you can't buy it, it is free if you want it. :Djedipunk
- want it :Djedipunk
- didn't countless cultures already come up with this jesus story thousands of years before? hard to buy indeed.spifflink
- oh dear gawd no. "...spread the gospel...". Please stop. This is the problem. Keep it to yourselves.VectorMasked
- all fair.. sounds nice and well..
- ukit0
Why doesn't God, being all-powerful and whatnot, just destroy Satan once and for all? Wouldn't that be a good move for all of us?
- If you read the end of 'the book' that is exactly what happens. I believe that we may just see that come to pass in the near futurejedipunk
- in other words he doenst know why, but will pretend the answer is gnostically mysterious and worthy. Oh!mikotondria3
- Because "good" or "bad" belong to human reasoning. Why would a God care about petty theft?Corvo2
- bliznutty0
Main Entry:
1make–be·lieve Listen to the pronunciation of 1make–believe
Pronunciation:
\ˈmāk-bə-ˌlēv\
Variant(s):
also make–be·lief Listen to the pronunciation of make–belief \-ˌlēf\
Function:
noun
Date:
1811: a pretending that what is not real is real
- Mimio0
It's hokum and anthropomorphisms.
- elektro0
I call it evolution
- ukit0
- gramme0
I'll be the first to say that we don't know why God has yet to cast Satan into his own hell. It will happen, I believe, I just don't know when, and I don't know the significance of that particular "when." The book of Revelation talks about the end times, but doesn't exactly give a date for us to tack onto our calendars. I'm sure one of my esteemed smart-asses will jump on this and say "That's because it's a fairytale that will never come true!" And you know what—I really don't have an argument for that which will convince any of you, except to say that some of us will be woefully wrong, and it remains to be seen what the outcome will be.
What I do know is that evil is not so much a thing in and of itself, not an invention, but rather a twisting of something that already existed. Evil can mock and modify, but it has no real imagination. Evil can best be described as the lack of perfection, in a myriad of varying degrees.
- ukit0
Here's another question to chew on...did God create Satan? He must've, right, being the originator of everything? But why?
How can we be aware of the End Times (presumably through God), but God didn't realize how things would pan out when he brought Satan into existence? Doesn't make a great deal of sense IMHO.
- Read St. Augustine's treatise on the nature of evil.gramme
- http://www.google.co…gramme
- spifflink0
this thread needs a little more carl sagan.
- gramme0
"nobody has the absolute truth, but religion is so obviously flawed and full of holes it's ridiculous. the amount of substance it holds is comparable to a childrens fairytail [sic]."
That's an absolutist statement if I've ever heard one. I agree that in general, religion tends to be quite deeply flawed. Pointless rules that lead to misery and death, what's the good in that? But, if you study all major religions, you will see that they have such fundamental differences at the core, such total contradictions from one to the other, that they cannot ALL possibly be "the way." This whole postmodern shite about many paths to one God is a load of bollocks for a generation who can't/won't commit. It's really just watered-down Buddhism. It seems the only absolute truth people want to believe these days is that there is no absolute truth, how dare you tell me there is a set of absolutes and that all religions are shite except one. Well guess what Jim, that's the wildly unpopular truth. It's a double edged sword that either defends or offends. Guess what? WE AREN'T GODS! We don't fabricate eternal truth, because we don't have such power! If truth is relative, then I am God! You are God! I am the three-headed spaghetti monster and Jesus Christ rolled into one, you can't tell me that's insane because it's my truth and nothing else matters!
Now, back to earth: I often find myself guilty of idolatry—of self, of goals, of people, you name it—anything besides God. But, thankfully I am always drawn back to him, and there I can rest. One day I will see him in glory, and I will be imperfect no more. Good night all.
- ukit0
The only real explanation I can see is that Satan (and evil in general) are not actually "bad" - they are part of God's plan. However, it seems that the main results of evil and "sin," according to Christians, is people ending up in eternal damnation in hell. That definitely can't be a harmless result.
So, it kind of boggles the mind how a benevolent God who loves all of us would tolerate the existence of evil, with the result of much of the human race banished to eternal torture in hell.
- jedipunk0
Re: ukit
Satan was Lucifer who at one time was one of the most glorious angels created, but he wanted God's position (or something like that - I would have to study it out to give you an accurate summary) and was cast out heaven along with a third of the angles (the ones that satan convinced to side with him). I guess that is the risk of giving free will to God's creation.
God created mankind with free will because he wanted to be in relationship with beings that wanted to be in relationship with Him. God blessed mankind with dominion over the earth but mankind was deceived out of it by satan... bummer for us...
God made a way so that no human should ever have eternal separation from Him but have life abundantly (I think you know who I am getting at ;)).
I never really struggled with the ideas that you are voicing (although I am sure a lot of people do), the thing I had to settle in my heart was whether I believe that Christ died and was raised again so that I could be saved and adopted into the family.
Mankind was never meant for hell, it is for the fallen angels
- angles = angelsjedipunk
- God, Lucifer, Angels... stories of this kind are make belief. Just like the Greek mythsbliznutty
- And you say this based on what grounds...? You lack physical evidence, and thus call it a fairy tale.gramme
- Lack of physical evidence in the here/now does not = fairy tale.gramme
- no but the dubious circumstances in which these stories were fabricated tends to make it a little bit, let's say unbelievablespifflink
- unbelievablespifflink
- VectorMasked0
- i like this dude - he made an interesting documentary called 'the root of all evil'indian_pole
- yep. have watched it a few times.
good stuff.VectorMasked - If you like this guy; check out Christopher Hitchens :)Lillebo
- Lillebo0
I always loved this one:
http://www.jcnot4me.com/Items/sp…
- GeorgesII0
can someone update me.
thanks
- chossy0
god will be busy when he is giving all you guys a right proper roasting.
