I'm hating my newish job.
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- airey0
learn as much about prepress as you can man. like some above have said. so many designers these days do ridiculous shite like use 4 colour images in a 2 colour job, etc etc. if you learn how it gets from the screen to the paper you'll have a huge benefit above the others who would be competition for jobs.
also, start doing other stuff after hours, during work, whatever. if you treat the day job as a base income to keep you afloat as well as learn from you'll be able to take on more interesting work for clients that have little cashflow (or free) or for yourself. stuff that a different day job may not allow due to both time and headspace.
- stem0
Quit yer snivvlin', just be thankful you have got a job. At least you are not emptying bins or having to wipe arses for a living.
Get the experience, prove how good you are, then move on, hopefully, after a few years, you get to where you want.
- chossy0
When I got my first job in TV I was over the moon and really appreciated it, these days kids want to be fucking treated like monet because they can turn a computer on.
In my old work we gave someone exactly like rybo a shot at an edit and it was a fucking disaster they panicked and couldn't cope with the pressure of having to perform and when the client didn't like some stuff and wanted to change it they fell apart. Stick in at college concentrate on getting a good fucking head on your shoulders than think about getting your work on. Confidence is a good thing but blind arrogance and is not.
- Exactly. The entitlement disease. WAY too common.jaylarson
- Totally agree.
Everyone wants to be an AD right out of school. It's hilarious.******** - Chossy: Truth Tellerlocustsloth
- ********0
I sent my first job to a printers (a flyer) at 72dpi.
That's how crap my college was.
- ...not as crap as the flyer mind********
- Haha. Sounds familiar.********
- pics or it didnt happengentleman
- ...not as crap as the flyer mind
- Jimbo820
My college was shit too, too much theory and not enough practical work, like print production and programs. I learnt all that stuff the hard way in my first job, working for free at a small design agency, life guarding in the evenings and at weekends. When I look back at my portfolio on leaving college I shudder. I'm frickin awesome now though, top notch I tell you, amazing, simply the best, better than all the rest, better than anyone, anyone I ever met.
- chossy0
My college was really good loads of practical and lots of good sound theory, when I left college I was able to slot right into making the tea and doing wee tape copies, my first proper job in TV paid £6000 per anum this was in 1999 I was fucking flat broke all the time and I lived in Edinburgh it was expensive. I had to eat rice peas and gravy in order to keep the job.
- meffid0
Glad this was a Rybo thread.
- ********0
If you work at a full-service print shop, and you're twiddling your thumbs, then that's your problem right there.
You should be coming into work every day with experiments to play with. "Hey Boss, I really want to learn a lot more about this print thing, and I was wondering if you would mind if I could bring in some of my personal work from time-to-time to play with some of the awesome technology around here. I really want to get better at all of this, and impress you!"
/endcocksucking
- umm not sure many print house will allow him to run out personal prints for free.mistermik
- ********0
£45 rybo?
Holy Shit. Good job it wasn't an annual report on a run of 60,000.But really - if your printers does proper Lytho, then learn all you can. If they have an artworker on site, watch him.
- mistermik0
i love how Rybo lists where he works and says he's better than them and he hasn't anything to do.
- monkeyshine0
I'm assuming you have access to free printing...if you do then use it to create some killer work for portfolio. If you let go of your high expectations of this job, you might learn a thing or two that will be very useful to you later.
- 23kon0
welcome to the real world rybo.
when i was a student i worked at safeway stacking shelves.i think you'll find that most of us on here have a big list of things they are in the middle of, whether thats work work or homers for mates/gf's/family etc as well as personal projects and bits n bobs.
if you are not happy at the print shop then just get a job stacking shelves. if nothing from the print job will benefit your folio then what's the point doing it if its getting you down.
like moth said though, you might learn a bit from this part time job thatl put you ahead of your peers in terms of experience in the field.
- jeveritt0
My first job out of college, i spent weeks and weeks doing clipping path cutouts for catalogue work.
It wasnt much fun, and it didnt pay well at all. On the plus side i got shit hot at clipping paths...- I'll give you a high five on that one. Was my first few months in a new job after college!ian
- Doorman0
Change job...i prefer to be unemployed than having to put up with a shite job....I did it and it is worth doing....3 weeks later new job and better
- 23kon0
some people might find that if a job, or family, or school gets too much for them that going on a bit of a rambo rampage might help relieve a bit of that tension.
if you're getting the knife, then might as well go the whole hogg and get the costume too :)
- uncle_helv0
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FEED website
WeMakeArt website
My own Website.
Tim Joplin Website + Print
FEED seminar (Nic Freeman - Beautiful tv) PRINT
Brave new world illustrations
Artism Book
HYBRID POSTER/Animation for Plus Festival
END OF YEAR SHOW proposal
END OF YEAR SHOW - tickets posters flyers management
EDIT_APPLY (wall wrap)
Vanley Burke Logo
Brand a design department
design a CV... Jeeeeeeeeesus that' a lot of work for us to crit, you best hurry up, as we are all busy too!!
PS. so what's the schedule post deadline of that Artism book, how much will it cost me?
- Audria0
your in college.. so do as much as you can without going overboard.
when I was in college, my schedule sounded like yours + I had two jobs and I was an education major as well. I taught my last year of school, went to school and managed to hold a job. Just dont be a workaholic like me.. I ended up getting a pinched nerve because of stress.
Now im paying for with by going to acupuncture.- wow too early. ** paying for it by going to acupuncture.. now im going to work.Audria
- gentleman0
moan moan moan
dont like it - quit
at least you tried. and failed.
also concentrate on the uni shit - Its WAY more important than a bullshittt job.
- D_Dot0
I read that as "I'm hating my jewish nob"