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If you owe child support in Florida and are having financial hardships the state does not care. They will take your entire savings to appease their debt by creating more problems for the individual by forcing them into even more difficult hardships including homelessness. This petition is to create a law that caps levies to a variable of a person's net worth to ensure that the person will still be able to live within reasonable means. The era of Florida creating a larger problem by ruining parents' lives and forcing them into homelessness because of poverty must come to an end.
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Trump killed it tonight.
Can't wait to see the Hillary retort.
- 73 minutes of hate. Nicely done.BusterBoy
- It was interesting listening to him change his tone at times. Really selling it to the black and lgbtq community.sea_sea
- lol, hate, racism, hate, racism,
liberal are litterally not even tryingGeorgesII - LOL Selling it to the LGBTI community by saying LGBTI twice. Wooppee fucking dooo!BusterBoy
- And good luck Peter Thiel getting out of there before getting beaten up.BusterBoy
- the cringe in the audience when he mentioned the gays and Ferguson. lol he's a fkn hypocrite, too late for that mr dump.sea_sea
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Trump yourself App.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/t…
- BusterBoy2
- cenk denied the armenian genocide, but every trump supporter is a neonazi..
https://whyevolution…GeorgesII - Alex Jones is a troll and supplement pill pusher...but Cenk clearly has some anger issues judging by this clip.yuekit
- wow, you don't say the guy that named his "media" group after the group that commited the armenian genocide, are you surprised?GeorgesII
- cenk denied the armenian genocide, but every trump supporter is a neonazi..
- sureshot-1
- GeorgesII-5
lol, if Bernie would have spent a single minute talking about how dangerous hillary is, how her connections to wallstreet were bad for the US, how her connections to repressive government was bad for both women and gays, how she repeatdly lied to the FBI and commited perjury, he would be the top choice right now and I for one would be his biggest fan,
but instead we now have a legion of neckbeard totally ignoring the crimes she has committed in the last 20 years, just because of feels,
"Trump is hitler, racist, xenophobe, bigot"
really??
the left really overplayed their hand on this one, it proves that they haven't been listening to anyone in the past 15 years, they care more about sensationalistic bs than cold hard fact,you had the FBI director spend an hour listing every crimes she commited and finishing up by saying they won't prosecute her because she was ignorant,
yet you prefer to lose 5 days on two passage of a 20 min speech or a screencap of a candidate waving at the crowd,
you only have to blame yourself for making Trump president and none of you still realize this, you thought people care more about feels than feeding their children, job security and law & order, lol
hillary was by far the weakest link in the democrats, but bernie was always a sellout so he pandered as much as her and still lost,
you think the RNC was a clusterfuck, I can't wait for the DNC
- Yes Georges...a 20 min speech or a screencap of a candidate waving at the crowd is all there s against Trump.BusterBoy
- Georges the honorary Republican...let's put Bush and Cheney's party back in power because Clinton is a "criminal." Yeah that'll solve things.yuekit
- well do you prefer hillary, I really don't get the left anymore, weren't we suppose to be antiwar and corporation?GeorgesII
- Dems have been trying to clean up the fucking mess left to them in 2008.BusterBoy
- The problem is you completely lack perspective...the Dems aren't perfect but there is no way they are worse than the regressive corrupt mess that is the GOP.yuekit
- "weren't we" - so let me clarify - are you left? or are you a Trump supporter? You do confuse me Georges.fadein11
- @fadein, if you read my messages left here in the past 14 years, you'll get that I'm not right or left, I'm antiwar, not a pacifist, I'm against bullshit firstGeorgesII
- ok - you just confused me with your use of 'we' - yep I thought as much - on the fence ;)fadein11
- yo man, we're human, I talk shit about dems the same way I talked shit about reps, sadly, I only get called racist by the dems.. sadGeorgesII
- GeorgesII-5
she even kind enough to list the group she panders the most to in order
- wtf??GeorgesII
- lol...do you really want to play the game of who has the worst supporters?yuekit
- A guy who shaves his beard vs. literal neo Nazis on Trump's side.yuekit
- lol, neo nazis, you are really a joke yuekit, the fact that you think a candidate receiving millions of dollars from repressive government is akin to haveGeorgesII
- having supporters from all walks of life and different point of views is worst, proves you are totally disconnected from realityGeorgesII
- don't you have a beard?fadein11
- Too funny Georgres. Neo nazis = "supporters from all walks of life." But no feminists!11yuekit
- wow, all Trump supporters are neo nazis?? are you really that ridiculous, absolutly no arguments as usualGeorgesII
- Well of course I didn't say that...just that if you are going to pick out random people as evidence of how bad the other side is, it's not a game the Trumpyuekit
- supporters are exactly going to win. And yes there are a huge number of neo Nazi/ white nationalist supporting Trump, do you need me to post examples?yuekit
- I'm not saying she's bad, the FBI is, if she was you or me, we'll be already in jail, stop defending criminals yuekitGeorgesII
- You seem to be under the illusion that I'm afraid to criticize Clinton...I do think the email thing is shady, already said so in this thread in fact.yuekit
- And on the other hand we have Trump, the guy who sells MLM schemes and fake university diplomas.yuekit
- Let's be real here, no politician is a saint. But I will say this, as someone who actually grew up in U.S., I remember Bill Clinton's presidency and theyuekit
- occasional BJ aside, it's not like it was so horrible. In fact he was pretty moderate, which makes the hysteria over Hillary a little hard to understand.yuekit
- Bush was about 100x worse. It would take a lot to convince me to vote for the GOP, and Trump certainly isn't going to be the one to do it.yuekit
- GeorgesII-5
sorry post above was typical libreal numale
- GeorgesII-3
imagine if this was Trump,
nope he literally hates gays and he's a nazi
- Weren't you the one defending Putin's crackdown on gays not so long ago?yuekit
- if you prefer a right-winger running the U.S. just say so, but pretending the GOP is better on gay rights or less corrupt is laughable.yuekit
- you're so full of shit yuekit, I never defended puting crackdown on gays, you can go look it up, and paste the messages of me defending this crackdown,GeorgesII
- btw, if that's your retort, I now understand why Trump is winning,GeorgesII
- Sorry Georges, no need to take it personal but I do seem to remember you defending Putin.yuekit
- As far as these donations go, I don't really know what the idea is. Are you saying Clinton will be anti-gay because some rich people in Qatar (who may or mayyuekit
- not even be religious, it's not like everyone in the country thinks the same) gave money to a charity? As opposed to the GOP, which has in their platform toyuekit
- repeal gay marriage, and even supports "pray the gay away" conversion therapy?yuekit
- If so, feel free to explain how that makes sense there b/c not sure I understand the logic.yuekit
- I would like to point out that Hillary became pro gay only when the public opinion changed, Trump was pro gay and minorities long before this crookGeorgesII
- btw, no offense taken, I just speak my mind, you speak yours, it's cool man ehehheGeorgesII
- Yeah no worries man. And you're right about that, but there was also a time back in the 90s when the entire country was more conservative on social issues.yuekit
- And so the Clintons, like any good politician, went with the flow and pushed things as far as they could. Ultimately I'm not sure I really care about Hillary'syuekit
- timeline of changing her mind, the point is that with Democrats you will see social liberalism protected, while with GOP you will see a regression.yuekit
- And Trump handing power to people like Mike Pence, who supported a law forcing women to bury their dead fetuses after an abortion, shows that socialyuekit
- conservatives will have influence in a Republican government. I think many millennial Trump supporter are too young to remember last time GOP was in power.yuekit
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- BusterBoy3
Most important issue...fucken creepy Donald Trump.
- not realizing you can make anyone look creepy from a snapshot, I won't downvote you btwGeorgesII
- ^ ha you don't think he's a total creep? purlease... creepiest bloke on the planet.fadein11
- fadein, I would love if you guys extended your creepyness radar to bill.. but no let's just ignore itGeorgesII
- That's his freaking daughter FFS. Sorry but that is completely unnatural.BusterBoy
- I think you may be showing a political and sexist bias. If it was bill w chelsea you wouldn't think twice.hotroddy
- but trumps daughter is hot so you guys make a thing about it.hotroddy
- If you can find a pic where Bill does that to Chelsea, I'll be as equally disgusted.BusterBoy
- google clinton kissing chelsea. plenty of weird photo opps.hotroddy
- GeorgesII-2
everyone should watch this
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- ONPonyBoy
- Good thing Trump never lied about anything.yuekit
- Yep, he's gonna build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Deport 11 million people despite no plan to do so. And ban all Muslims, somehow.yuekit
- He will cut taxes by $11 trillion and somehow not increase the deficit. The central planks of his campaign are bullshit and he knows it.yuekit
- well, yuekit, the fact that you prefer to have a know lliar, responsible for the death of over 500k Libyans, speaks a lot of your values, Trump by all standardGeorgesII
- is a succesfull businessman, wants to deport 11 millons "illegal". This is the question I ask every dems that defends muslims, Do you know any muslims? have youGeorgesII
- ever spoken about the Quran with a muslim (face to face not online), do you think sharia law is compatible with western values? you 95% of people I talked toGeorgesII
- never even interacted with one, the onther 5% has a rich liberal muslim friend so he believes everyone is like that, let me tell you something, from experienceGeorgesII
- (50% of my family is muslim, the other 50% is fundie) most people who think a better background check for muslim is bad, never interacted with fundie muslimsGeorgesII
- Georges...honestly, 1/4 of the world is Muslim, do you seriously think you can ban them from entering the U.S. or that it would be a good idea?yuekit
- If you need to know, yes I have spent time in Muslim countries. But that's kind of beside the point, it's a ridiculous policy that will never be implemented.yuekit
- Notice that Trump didn't mention it in his speech yesterday and nothing on the campaign website...he has no plan on how to achieve this, it's pure demagoguery.yuekit
- yuekit2
Indiana Gov. Mike Pence signed a law this year that mandated funerals for fetuses
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/14/121…
It’s no secret that Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s reported pick for the Republican vice presidential nomination, opposes abortion rights. But this year he signed an anti-abortion bill that even some pro-life Republicans thought was too extreme, and which was blocked from going into effect late last month by a federal judge because it violated women’s right to choose.
The law did something truly bizarre. It would have basically forced women to seek funerary services for a fetus — whether she’d had an abortion or a miscarriage, and no matter how far along the pregnancy was. The law Pence backed would have required all fetal tissue to be cremated or buried, an unprecedented measure in state law. The law also banned abortion if the fetus had a "disability" like Down syndrome, which would have also denied women the right to end a pregnancy in the event of more serious fetal anomalies.
The wording of the burial provision meant that technically, even if a woman had a miscarriage at eight weeks of pregnancy at home, she would have to keep the blood and tissue, take it to a hospital, and have it buried or cremated by a funeral home.
- This almost reads like The Onion but this is your Republican Party in 2016.yuekit
- Remember according to Trump his VP will have control over foreign and domestic policy...yuekit
- Women should have a right to choose, but I don't get how abortion is looked as an empowering process and vilifying people who point out it kills a human being.IRNlun6
- This type of reaction is the polar opposite reaction to how abortion is treated like just another form of birth control.IRNlun6
- Abortion is a medical procedure, not a moral one. Let's leave it to the doctors, the professionals and the women to decide, not the bible.monospaced
- One might not like the idea of abortion, but that's okay. Lots of things people don't like, but in the end, it doesn't affect them in any way.monospaced
- It's absolutely a moral/ethical decision which is why they are limited to 24-26 weeks. Where the fetus could survive outside the womb and feel pain.IRNlun6
- I'm for women making the choice, but not in favor of looking at it like just a procedure. Fine line between clump of cell and a human.IRNlun6
- @IRN, that whole argument about surviving outside womb and feeling pain. That ONLY came from scientific knowledge, not the bible.monospaced
- so really, you're agreeing that the SCIENTIFIC conclusion that aborting a fetus within a timeframe is logical and ethical, right? how very "left" of youmonospaced
- the thing is, the right wants to abolish it completely, no matter what... and they're spent millions making sure it's a fucking nightmare for a woman to get onemonospaced
- GeorgesII-3
Trump is a sociopath!!!
- https://en.wikipedia…GeorgesII
- Libya intervention which Trump also supported. It's funny, literally anything you can criticize Clinton on, Trump is also guilty of.yuekit
- Also, although Clinton's comments here are disturbing given what happened to him, let's not pretend Gaddafi was a nice guy.yuekit
- so every time I'm going to point out a flaw in hillary whom has been in politics for 40 years, you going to respond with but Trump... Tu quoque much yuekitGeorgesII
- He tortured and murdered thousands of Libyans. There's a reason why his own people rose up against him.yuekit
- you see uekit, soon you're going to say benghazi was an embassy, the fact that you say his people rose against him proves you know a lot less than you pretendGeorgesII
- http://humansarefree…********
- it's totally his people that decreted a nofly zone, it's his people that sent weapons to the opposition, it's his people that supported the rebels financially..GeorgesII
- as an african I feel fuckn angry when they pull the dictator card, kadafi was a friend of all the people that backstabbed him, it's horrible to justify theGeorgesII
- destruction of a sovereign land, do my libyan friend prefer the new and free libya compare to under kadaffi, go ask them mate, you seem to know manyGeorgesII
- You only think Gaddafi wasn't a nice guy because your media has told you that. He opposed a centralised bank and so was smeared then murdered by your government********
- Who was rising up against him then? Was Libya democratic in your view?yuekit
- Are you saying Trump was wrong or lying when he posted this?
https://youtu.be/zuv…yuekit - It's scary how brainwashed some people are. And they defend it to the end.********
- Sorry set, I find it ridiculous that central banking would be the reason why governments are overthrown.yuekit
- I'm sure the West did have some geopolitical motive for supporting the rebels in Libya, but that doesn't change the fact that Gaddafi was a dictator.yuekit
- If you fail to understand how economy and banking is the key controlling factor of civilisation, then I guess there's no point in talking with you further...********
- I genuinely have no interest in discussing this with you, not sure why I got involved. You have your ideas about how the world works, I have mine..********
- We won't be agreeing any time soon, I'm sure...
:)******** - Honestly I wish the world was divided between good guys and bad guys, would be much simpler that way.yuekit
- Is there a central bank in Libya right now, feel free to research that one fact and get back to me.yuekit
- GeorgesII-3
Trump is anti gay
(note that he was pro gays more than a decade before arf arf arf)http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/…
Are you serious about running?
Yes, I’m quite serious. Washington is in gridlock, and nothing is getting done. No health care reform, no tax relief, no campaign finance reform. The special interests run the country. I think it will take a nonpolitician to break the logjam. Somebody with a big-picture outlook. I’m someone who has built a billion-dollar business enterprise and created hundreds of thousands of jobs. I have made the tough decisions, always with an eye toward the bottom line. Perhaps it’s time America was run like a business.Why should gays and lesbians be interested in you as a presidential candidate?
I grew up in New York City, a town with different races, religions, and peoples. It breeds tolerance. In all truth, I don’t care whether or not a person is gay. I judge people based on their capability, honesty, and merit. Being in the entertainment business — that is, owning casinos and ... several large beauty pageants — I’ve worked with many gay people. I have met some tough, talented, capable, terrific people. Their lifestyle is of no interest to me.Would we see gay people in a Trump administration?
I would want the best and brightest. Sexual orientation would be meaningless. I’m looking for brains and experience. If the best person for the job happens to be gay, I would certainly appoint them. One of the key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace, good people don’t go into government. I’d want to change that.
- GeorgesII-3
Trump is a nazi,
let's forget for a second that the aipac is behind himhttp://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-…
On the other hand, Trump has an intimate familiarity with Jewish practice and Jewish life. His daughter, Ivanka, converted to Orthodox Judaism in 2009; if elected, Trump would be the first president to be the parent and grand-parent of observant Jews. Ivanka’s husband, real-estate magnate Jared Kushner, is an Orthodox Jew and one of Trump’s top advisers. The Trump Organization’s longtime chief financial officer and general counsel are both observant Jews, and Trump has the support of perhaps the single most important political donor in the American Jewish world—Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson. Though he is a deeply repellent political figure to many American Jews, Trump can plausibly claim that Jews and Judaism are closer to the center of his life and work than they are for his opponent, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Trump’s favored Jews have a seemingly limitless confidence in their benefactor’s personal qualities. The Trump they know is decisive, serious, tolerant, and generous, and they’ve formed their impressions out of years or even decades of personal experience with the man. Despite this special access, their belief in Trump himself—which is often independent of any deep ideological kinship—helps demystify exactly why the real-estate developer, who is so blatantly and viscerally unpalatable to tens of millions of Americans, appeals to tens of millions of others.
The Trump Jews also hint at some of Trumpworld’s defining organizational tendencies. With the possible exception of Sheldon Adelson, every one of the major Trump Jews has known Trump for years, is personally friends with Trump, or is connected to his family through marriage. One of Trump’s Jews is known to be a registered Democrat. One of them was a leading Democratic donor who has a tortured history with one of Trump’s most dedicated surrogates.
- You're ignoring some of the nuance here. No one said Trump himself is a Nazi. But his campaign has lit a fire under the white nationalist movement.yuekit
- oooh please stop! you're making a fool of yourself again, Trump is hitler (repeat 5000X), anyone who isn't white is a sellout race traitor, the left treatmentGeorgesII
- You know as well as I do that white nationalists love Trump and have seen huge gains in support thanks to his campaign.yuekit
- Maybe it doesn't bother you, but as a second generation immigrant I'd rather not see white nationalism as a rising force in the U.S.yuekit
