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  • TheBlueOne0

    "Republicans want to open up a new front in the immigration fight. They're calling for hearings on repealing the 14th Amendment..."

    Meanwhile on the official Republican website, they are proud that they past the 14th Amendment as a "Great Accomplishment" http://www.gop.com/index.php/lea…

    Haha. Irony. It's perpetually lost on you guys.

    • LOLomgitsacamera
    • 14th was necessary training wheels. time to take them off
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    • 130 years of training wheels. This is what you're going with, huh?TheBlueOne
    • yup. there is plenty of garbage in it. how bout sort out the trash and toss it.
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    • unless you are comfrotabel with the status quo and dont liek change. see how easy that is
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    • Learn to spell and get back to me.TheBlueOne
    • I love how you point to one instance and stereotype an ENTIRE party, nice work fucko!
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  • ukit0

    Prop 8 struck down by CA Supreme Court

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20…

  • TheBlueOne0

    Taa Party Version of the Constitution:

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    We the People of the United States secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves, the White Folks, and those who accept our dominion, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion that isn't Christianity.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. But they can't raise any taxes on anyone every, nor pay any money for anything representing the "common good" because that would just mean lazy, colored folks will get what we deserve.

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    All the rest has been "training wheels" and it's time for them to come off. Too much garbage in there apparently.

    • well i see you misspell too, but thats fine by me becuase i can still understand it. and i understand its above your head
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    • you remind me of a fundamentalist christian. no ability for independant thought. theres jsut your teams word
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    • word
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    • naw its not above your head. its gotta be psychology. that team spirit thing
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    • say your team supported it. then would you think or jsut go with the flow and tell yourself they know what theyre doing
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    • You have issues.TheBlueOne
    • You confuse mistyping with misspelling.TheBlueOne
    • I don't have a "team", but if that's the level you operate from, feel free to believe it.TheBlueOne
    • You're either with them, or against them!Josev
    • hmmh... sounds familiarJosev
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  • omgitsacamera0

    "14th was necessary training wheels. time to take them off"

    You REALLY think that if we repeal the 14th Amendment that some people will miraculously be able to be blind in regards race/gender/sexuality/religion when it comes to protection under law? Hell, people can't even do that even with the amendment.

    • yes some. but unfortunatly not the popular majority. however to get there you have to realize its training wheels
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    • and whats so wrong with hope and a little bit of trying for the better? i see the hurdle. baby steps
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    • What's the point though? Aren't there bigger problems in the world?ukit
    • not much of a point in anything really. not even the bigger problems.
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  • omgitsacamera0

    Honestly, as much as I love debating / arguing, people across the political/religious/you-name-it gamut should put aside their differences and work together, since the outright majority of people are going to sink with this ship.

    • +1000%ukit
    • the trick is gettign the people to realize both teams are playing the people for there own gain
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    • coming together on oneside of the broad fence vs the other just enables them
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    • This is a capitalistic society, winner-take-all and every-man-for-yourse... is a birth mark.omgitsacamera
    • I get what you are saying, I think we should give it a chance, but what if it doesn't work? We can barely get 1/2omgitsacamera
    • of anyone to agree on whether the president was born here, let alone 2/3 of the states ratify an amendement.omgitsacamera
    • That last note applies to both the 14th amendment post too.omgitsacamera
    • And change that should to a MUST, and the are to a WILL.omgitsacamera
    • There you go again with "teams". The only person here talking about teams is you. Strawman.TheBlueOne
  • ukit0

    ^This kid may be young but he's right on the money

    My suggestion is this - turn off the TV, stop going to news sites every day. I used to be kind of a news junkie but you know what, it's pretty pointless. All the focus is on the tit for tat bullshit and not on the real issues. It's designed to persuade you to one side or another, to buy into a set of beliefs, that aren't necessarily in your best interest.

    Basically what we have now is a society where one half hates the other half, based on what the media has been feeding them. When people are so strongly polarized, it becomes very easy for powerful interests to use them as pawns to achieve what they want.

    Choose not to be a pawn - turn off the cable news, stop reading the endless parade of politicial opinion sites telling you Obama sucks or Palin is dumb, in fact I would say it wouldn't be a horrible thing to avoid any kind of editorial at all for a while just to balance things out. Try it for a few months and make up your own damn mind for a change.

    • There is a theory out there that the people who are most informed are the least informed at all...since they have no perspective on the issuesukit
    • perspective on the issuesukit
    • Does this mean I shouldn't read the NY Times everyday? I feel so naked when I don't know what's going on in the world.omgitsacamera
    • I think of the same theory in regards to myself, I think it stems from my teachers comments on my essays...omgitsacamera
    • ...great facts, but no commentary/analysis.omgitsacamera
    • I just find myself thinking there is a certain "brain washing" that goes on when you continually read the same media sources...ukit
    • One set of assumptions leads to another set of assumptions and before you know it you "care" about issues that don't make a dime of difference in your lifeukit
    • make a dime of difference in your life.ukit
    • But I think the worst part is that it leads to groupthink/ nonobjectivity which is the opposite of what we need to solve difficult problemsukit
    • solve difficult problemsukit
  • ukit0

    Maybe we can develop a slogan around this

    "Turn off, tune out..." lol

  • ukit0

    And frankly the Baby Boomers should all just be banned from any further participation in politics. They've done enough damage.

  • TheBlueOne0

    deathboy - what exactly is the "training wheels" part of the 14th Amendment you refer to?

    • generally anything that promotes unequality. but ive said my piece while back supporting paul on it
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    • I see, so you can't even defend what you said. Figured.TheBlueOne
    • The correct term would be "inequality". You make mistakes like this and expect people to take your opinions seriously.DrBombay
    • seriously.DrBombay
    • considering the fact you knew what was meant i see no problem in it.
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  • omgitsacamera0

    Are we forming into teams now?

    TEAM EDWARD.

    • *calls TEAM WOLFGANGTheBlueOne
    • i liek the term team better to describe left/right/liberal/t... figure teams is general and wont instantly create bias
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  • omgitsacamera0

    tl;dr version of http://www.qbn.com/topics/564613… here...

    Take a cue from IBM: Stop talking, Start doing.

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    Feds to announce arrests of 14 Somali-Americans linked to terrorism

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nat…

  • TheBlueOne0

    "I love how you point to one instance and stereotype an ENTIRE party, nice work fucko!"

    Hahaha. This comes from Mr. Stereotype himself. Please post more pictures of scary black men. Way to stereotype a few billion people, fucko.

  • TheBlueOne0

    @deathboy - please point out the sections that promote inequality:

    "14th Amendment
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

    Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."

    • or unequality...DrBombay
    • you know what im talking about. affirmative action. the ability to discriminate as one sees fit. that race card bs.
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    • would you like to try and call me a racist now?
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    • No, you still haven't pointed out the section you don't like. Affirmative Action is not in the 14th amendmentTheBlueOne
    • oh youre going with that angle. there is no explicit part that i directly dislike.
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    • so do you reword 14th to strip power from the laws i find UNequal, or jsut axe the laws and hope no repeat
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    • im good with either
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  • joeth0

    Much truth here...

    Fix Congress First - http://www.fixcongressfirst.org/…

  • omgitsacamera0

    "In response to such rampant xenophobia (and emboldened by the fighting spirit of yourself and others) I've gotten a simple tattoo to remind myself and others of a few of the ideas that once guided America through tumultuous times (don't worry... it's not one of those terrible celebrity portrait tattoos).

    While the "nerd factor" needle might be peaking right now... I'm quite of both my tattoo and also proud that you and your colleagues so fondly and fervently care for the country, its people, and their rights with the same ardent passion as I."

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/…

  • georgesIII0

    • HA!
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    • HAHHHAHAH ROFL! That's actually what Obama reminds me of, a black dude trying to sound white. hahaha
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  • TheBlueOne0

    Scenes from a Class War:

    “The bank would admit to intentionally subverting U.S. tax laws and defrauding the U.S. government by sending dozens of unregistered bankers, Birkenfeld among them, to the United States on thousands of illegal trips to facilitate tax evasion schemes for wealthy U.S.-based clients — a fraud hiding as much as $20 billion in secret undeclared accounts and earning UBS up to $200 million a year in ill-begotten profits.”

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispat…

    “On average, each cash-using household pays $151 to card-using households and each card-using household receives $1,482 from cash users every year. Because credit card spending and rewards are positively correlated with household income, the payment instrument transfer also induces a regressive transfer from low-income to high-income households in general. On average, and after accounting for rewards paid to households by banks, the lowest-income household ($20,000 or less annually) pays $23 and the highest-income household ($150,000 or more annually) receives $756 every year.”

    http://motherjones.com/kevin-dru…

    “The bankers said that the school system could raise $750 million in an exotic transaction that would eliminate the pension gap and save tens of millions of dollars annually in debt costs — money that could be plowed back into Denver’s classrooms, starved in recent years for funds...Since it struck the deal, the school system has paid $115 million in interest and other fees, at least $25 million more than it originally anticipated.

    To avoid mounting expenses, the Denver schools are looking to renegotiate the deal. But to unwind it all, the schools would have to pay the banks $81 million in termination fees, or about 19 percent of its $420 million payroll.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/0…

    At what point do you guys defending "free market capitalism" start realizing it ain't free, it ain't a market, and it's not capitalism.

    It's a protectionist racket for power players for whom competition is the last thing they want interfering with the ponzi scheme that is sucking rent from the rest of society while they provide nothing of value.

    • No, but let's focus on something important...like "anchor babies" and 150 yr old established lawTheBlueOne
    • ..anything to distract you rubes while your pocket is picked.TheBlueOne
    • been saying its not capitalism at all for awhile now. especially when people try to call it such.
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    • and blue people can be concerned with multiple problems.
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    • Amen TBO!!!DCDesigns
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    You guys have too much free time.

    • this shit gives my eyes a rbeak from touchup
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