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    Reality. My firm, the place I have worked and supported my family for 10 years is now out of business. All the office goods rolled up sold off or sent to the junkyard. General liability & workman comp Insurance coverages canceled. Vehicles sold. Equipment sold. Employees out on unemployment and turned over to Cobra for personal health coverage. Keys returned to the landlord, who begged us to stay because he has no other income on the property. A twenty five year old business blown away.

    The absolute last fucking nail in the coffin with this was our last client - a hedge fund manager who we built a $4 million dollar MacMansion calls - he's doing well - "stellar year" in fact, and he'd like us to build him a "climbing wall" in the basement for his children and install sound proofing panels so he won't have to hear them when they play in the playroom downstairs. It disturbs his deals when he's in his office.

    Well, I call the architect on the project to get the latest renderings and the architect informs me he's off the job. He said to me "I did the drawings for this prick and I sen him a bill and then he said to me "Oh, since you did the drawings for the house initially I didn't think you'd be charging me for these new additions."

    And when we gave the client an estimate for the very specific shit he wanted "I want these exact sound panels, they're what my client at JP Morgan recommended to me!" well..let's say he wanted us to install them with no markup.

    And that my friends is why America is fucked. The rich have gotten richer and don't undertsand why it *gosh* should cost them to pay the peons to do anything.

    This client also refused to let any workman use their bathrooms in their house because GOD FORBID they'd dirty them up with some sort of workman germs.

    Eat the fucking rich. Game on.

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    Democrats mired in swamp they vowed to drain
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100…

    WASHINGTON – A rash of ethics lapses has given Democrats an election-year headache: how to convince skeptical voters that they're any cleaner than Republicans they accused of fostering a "culture of corruption" in 2006.
    From the conduct of governors in Illinois and New York to back-room deals over President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, Democrats are drawing their own criticism when it comes to the ethics of public officials.

    The party that pledged to "drain the swamp" if given control of Congress finds itself sinking in the muck nine months from Election Day, when every member of the House and 36 Senate seats will be chosen.

    The sword of sanctimony cuts both ways, warns a Republican felled by his own scandal in the weeks before the 2006 elections, as then-Rep. Nancy Pelosi led the campaign cry to end "the culture of corruption that has thrived under this Republican Congress."

    "If you claim that you are going to hold a group accountable, as she professed, then it requires you to really be serious about that and not make excuses when members of their own party don't meet those same standards," former Rep. Mark Foley, who resigned weeks before the 2006 election because of allegations he pursued former House pages, told The Associated Press.

    • Fading, fadin, fadi, fad, fa, f...
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    • they are all crooks and liars! There can we atleast agree on that or are you going to argue that republicans are less sleazy?fooler2
    • sleazy?fooler2
    • Totally agree...!
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    • Republicans are worse.DrBombay
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    In other news...
    Dutch anti-Islam leader is major winner in polls
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp…

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    ^^^
    Sorry Sub. If it makes you feel any better, I just lost my home.

    • It is your wife's home though really, isn't it?DrBombay
    • Damn, sorry to hear that SumWurk. Did you have an ARM?mathinc
    • He was obviously living "above his means" don't feel sorry for him.DrBombay
    • I didn't EVER say not to feel sorry for someone. I agree it is his fault. But I still feel bad that people are losing their houses.mathinc
    • I have a house in Las Vegas and it went unrented for quite a while. I was paying rent here in Los Angeles and my mortgage there, I know how tough it can be.mathinc
    • I know how tough it can be. But if I lost my house it would be MY fault, and I'm prepared to take responsibility for ME. :)mathinc
    • talk is cheap.DrBombay
    • Are you trying to say that I don't take responsibility for my decisions? Or that you just don't think I would if I fucked up?mathinc
    • What difference does it make? You blame people when they lose their house without knowing any circumstances, as if you are their judge.DrBombay
    • if you are their judge. And then act like feeling sorry for them makes you not shitheel.DrBombay
    • Compassion for someone has nothing to do with the reality of their decisions. You're right, I don't know the specific circumstancesmathinc
    • circumstances, however, neither do you. If you feel better thinking that everyone who lost their house was a victim, cool.mathinc
    • Right, you don't but it must be his fault, fuck him. Throw him out in the street.DrBombay
    • If I lost my house, I would know that in the end, I signed the fucking papers. I would know that I missed opportunities to keepmathinc
    • No more notes from me.DrBombay
    • a positive cashflow. If someone simply got screwed then yeah that's a shame, but 99% of the time we share the blame.mathinc
    • Yeah I figured you'd bow out, you hate the idea of responsibility. Scares you to death.mathinc
    • Much easier to believe in the big bad wolf.mathinc
    • Yeah like when I took over my mother's mortgage so she wouldn't lose her home.DrBombay
    • I love how you feel you need to judge people when tragedy strikes. Who cares what you think?DrBombay
    • And you aren't judging people too? You try to make everyone the victim, is that not judging?mathinc
    • btw, Sorry about the situation your mom was in, that was really good of you to help.mathinc
    • I am still paying that mortgage, but you think I suck the gov tit. That is why you are a deluded tool.DrBombay
    • I never said it wasn't their fault. I just don't feel the need to point it out every time it comes up.DrBombay
    • If I am making 60K a year, buy a house worth 200K on credit and then lose my jobDrBombay
    • and then lose that house it is all my fault for thinking I could be employed in this country and make above poverty wages.DrBombay
    • wages.DrBombay
    • The way you make it sound is that everyone who lost their home bought a mansion and works at McDonalds.DrBombay
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    Another crazy anti-government freak opened fire at the pentagon yesterday
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03…

    Kind of amazed there was no mention of this here.

    • this story is kinda being swept under the rug...fooler2
    • because they can't label him a teabagger. his shit started back in 06... when bush was running the show.kona
    • Well that stack guy was never labeled a teabagger in the MSM.DrBombay
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    Blundering ‘angels of death’ jailed for planning Frankfurt massacr


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol…

    Thanks to electronic telephone intercepts supplied by the CIA and a series of blunders by the plotters, the German police got wind of the gang, kept it under observation and secretly swapped the deadly chemicals for a harmless diluted mixture. “You considered yourselves angels of death in the name of Islam,” said the judge.

  • 762mm0

    "Sarah Palin plans reality TV show
    http://www.politico.com/news/sto…

    thank god, at least we know now she won't be running for President.

  • BattleAxe0

    money money money

  • PonyBoy0

    entitled entitled entitled

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    THERE ARE NO WORDS FOR THIS...

  • fooler20

    • I would vote for jay-z, cant be any worse than borat obama!
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    • And the uneducated masses have spoken!DrBombay
    • IdiocracyMimio
    • President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert CamachoDrBombay
    • Drbombay you are one giant dooshbag! How's your buddy Obama doing on the jobs front??? Still waiting fir almost two months now for you to list the top things obamas done in year one, come on cunt rag, I'll wait!
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    • cnaps1970, you know president jay z's real name?
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    • McCain would have had a 0% unemployment rate, troll.DrBombay
    • Hey Bombay you pole smoker I'm talking to you fuck face!
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    • Dr. Doosh 36,000 lost there jobs last month, still bush's fault or should we blame Reagan?!?!
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    • Dr.doosh you Nancy pants do have anything to say??? Or what, were not talking about McCain, were talking about the failure, Obama!!!
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    • If you think the economy turns around at the snap of someone's fingers you are dumber than I even thought you were. Troll.DrBombay
    • troll.DrBombay
    • You are so fucking stupid you bald bastard!
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    • And you are a failure as a troll. You aren't intelligent enough to even rile anyone up.DrBombay
    • The only one who gets riled up is you. But one day maybe we can meet up face to face and tell me to die of aids! We can see how tough you really are liberal boy! Go and play with your Obama figure!!! Fooool!!!
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    • I don't hang out in trailer parks. We will never meet.DrBombay
    • I'll come by your section 8 welfare home, ya ghetto bitch! Now stop typing and go make me a sandwhich!! Ya doosh!
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    • Correct spelling is "douche", Stem cell.DrBombay
    • That's the way yo momma taught me in the trailer park, to spells it! Ya dumb fuck, dooooooosh!!!!
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    • You are such a poor excuse for a troll.DrBombay
    • Bombay where's my sandwich bitch, I still waiting on your ghetto, section 8 loving ass! Come on baldy...bring me a hope and change sandwhich, hold the bs!
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    • Instead of a sandwich how about an English book?DrBombay
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  • GeorgesII0

    yeah I know, I hate america...... whatever...

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/…
    I hate what America has become
    There are so many reasons that frankly, it's hard to pick a place to start:

    First of all.....when 28% of you brain dead fucking morons give a blithering IDIOT like Sarah Palin positive approval ratings and think she ought to run for president in 2012, it really makes me sick to know I am lumbered with that many mouth-breathing Cro-Magnons I unfortunately have to consider as my fellow countrymen....trust me.....I don't. You motherfuckers are beyond help.

    And before you go thinking this is a "liberal" based rant.....that brings me to one more item on an ever-lengthening list.

    This "Liberal" versus "Conservative" paradigm that so many of you simple dunces buy into.....as BOTH parties sell you out to the multinational corporations, banks and special interests that actually run Washington D.C.).....you do this STUPID dance every day, blithely detatched from the reality that YOU YOURSELF are helping to DIVIDE AND CONQUER the nation, as you myopically beat your little Hannity/Olberman drum of FUTILE self -righteous indignation. PATHETIC.

    THIS is a nation of PUSSIES AND FUCKING COWARDS. If this nation had any BALLS WHATSOEVER, there would be a trail of DEAD MEN SWINGING FROM THE ENDS OF ROPES leading from AIG, thru WALL STREET, the not-so "Federal" reserve, the 9/11 commission, and right through every other set-up con-job you people just buy into like a bunch of CATTLE BEING LED TO SLAUGHTER.

    It's not that Americans don't give a fuck.....every misled, misdirected group that goes out and crusades for the "Grand Cause" they think is responsible for the decimation of this ONCE great nation proves that.....the problem IS that the problem ISN'T illegal aliens (i.e. Minutemen) or Democrats in Washington (i.e. Teabaggers) or conservative policies (i.e. Code Pink).......the problem is ...... AMERICANS THEMSELVES.

    AMERICANS have sat on THEIR ASSES while Washington and the Pentagon have BANKRUPTED THE TREASURY and sent our sons and daughters into MEAT GRINDERS in Iraq and Afghanistan for WMD's and connections to 9/11 that did NOT EXIST and even AFTER the overwhelming evidence that the intel was "swept all up" (doctored, falsified, unreliable) you STUPID SHEEP keep buying into the BRAIN DEAD notion that somehow, these wars are for the FREEDOM of America.

    You're an IDIOT. They're wars for EMPIRE.

    Your son's and daughter's BLOOD is being used as OIL to grease an evil, out of control WAR MACHINE....Your money and financial security is being DEVOURED by Wall St. and the Federal Reserve, with collusion from YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, and your standard of living is slowly eroding into a two-class system as the middle class is being FORCED INTO EXTINCTION......

    ......and you do NOTHING to stop ANY of it.

    You ignorant FOOLS who send shotgun Emails to all your friends warning of "death panels" and other such HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY PROPAGANDA, yes, you friggin' GOMERS actually think the Health Insurance Industry has your best interests in mind, and it's "dat mean ol' gubmint" that wants to penalize you by providing your family health care that isn't profit-based.

    MEDICARE only got passed because it effectively REMOVED the highest-risk group to the insurance providers (the elderly) from the 'pool' of prospective insurees, thereby minimizing their financial exposure. It's completely lost on most people that catastrophic illness is the main reason for personal bankruptcy....and that 75% of those who had to file HAD health insurance.

    And this is the 'status quo' many of you are defending. You are BEYOND dense.

    America has lost it's HONOR, as well as it's collective senses. I don't wish upon America any malice or catastrophe.....trust me, this is happening with assistance and collusion from the top down, not from some Arab in a cave. I just want to leave peacefully and live in a place that doesn't have leaders that hope for a "catastrophic and catalyzing event" to promote a war agenda that takes pride in kicking the shit out of unarmed peasants living in the dirt....then blames them for retaliating. Can't wait to see this dysfunctional madhouse in my rear view mirror.

    When you abide by a system of government that you FULLY EXPECT will side AGAINST YOU and WITH corporate lobbyists (MANY of whom represent interests that are not even from the USA) who BRIBE THEM WITH BALES OF CASH....and are working 24/7 to maximize their profits and minimize their potential competition in the marketplace.....all at the expense of you and your family....and don't lift a FINGER to do ANYTHING TO CHANGE IT......you fucking DESERVE WHAT'S COMING. What might that be.....?

    Think Germany and the treaty of Versailles.....when a wheelbarrow full of Deutschmarks is what it took to buy a MEAL.

    WHEN the dollar collapses.....not IF, WHEN.....THAT'S when you'll really begin to see the true definition of FASCISM. The unity of government and corporations to economically and militarily control it's people. History WILL repeat itself....but if you're like so many of the morons in the USA who think they're so smart but don't know SHIT.....it will all be NEW TO YOU. Good luck.....you'll need it.

    This is the most ARROGANT nation in EXISTANCE, second only to ISRAEL....and since ALL of our politicians are falling over backwards to kiss Israel's ASS on a daily basis, fully knowing that exposing any inconvenient TRUTH about them equals political SUICIDE....that and the mass media in America that feeds it's daily ration of BULLSHIT is controlled by individuals biased towards them as well....ANYONE who thinks they know what is going on because they read TIME magazine and watch CNN, FOX news OR MSNBC.....you are DELUSIONAL.

    One nation under God....? What a JOKE.

    MONEY is God here pal....even people who are reading this who hate the words I typed KNOW this is true. What does it say in your bible about the love of money? The root of all evil, no?

    How DARE this nation question human rights abuses of other nations after Abu Ghraib and countless other bombing and torture campaigns, where it was stated it is passable to crush the testicles of young boys in front of their fathers to extract information.

    How DARE this nation deign to be the world's nuclear police when WE are the only nation to ever USE NUKES.

    MOST of you actually consider Palestinians as TERRORISTS, when it is THEY who have been occupied, imprisoned behind 25 foot high concrete walls and denied basic human decency by APARTHEID ISRAEL. Those of you who get your info from American media REMAIN IGNORANT OF THE TRUTH.

    You're probably wondering if I'm some Arab, or other person hostile to "America's Freedoms" lol.... Yeah, you're really free here.......

    Free to go BANKRUPT if you get sick, even if you HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.

    Free to vote on DIEBOLD voting machines that can flip elections and leave no paper trail.

    Free to watch your life savings DWINDLE AND EVAPORATE into the pockets of the ROBBER BARONS you PATRONIZE.

    Free to watch your JOB get shipped to CHINA....and then you fucking FOOLS buy the goods PRODUCED FORM THOSE JOBS at Wal Mart, further REWARDING AND ENCOURAGING businesses to CONTINUE this pattern. I have never bought a fucking THING from Wal-Mart, and if you have.....you are a simple, stupid FUCKSTICK.

    You're free to be video monitored, photographed by the millisecond at traffic light traps, electronically surveiled, searched with no warrant, shaken down and partially disrobed at airports, free to be told how much shampoo you are allowed to carry in your luggage, free to buy processed foods that give you cancer, genetically altered vegetables that contain neat things like INSECT DNA, free to pay more than ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET for pharmeceuticals, free to be the pharmaceutical company's guinea pig for drugs that have potentially catastrophic side effects, free to have PUBLIC POLICY DICTATED TO YOU by government 'officials' that have dual citizenship with ISRAEL, free to have ANY MEANINGFUL TRUTH WITHHELD FROM YOU by the mass media......

    .....and free to be one of the ONE OUT OF EVERY HUNDRED AMERICANS living in PRISON.

    Land of the free, home of the brave??

    More like land of the SHEEP and home of the SLAVE.

    • thats from Portland, Oregon. AKA "Little Beirut" coined by Mr Bush Sr.fooler2
  • PonyBoy0

    jeepers, Georgey...

    ... you've ranted... now please guide us... everything you said is pretty much accurate - from the science to the politics to GOD... can't help but agree...

    ... what do you propose be done outside of a bunch of Corpo dickholes swinging from the end of a rope? :)

    And as for Israel - thank the glorious Untied (united) Nations for setting them up back when our Grandparents were in charge... the U.S. continues to back them as the U.N. does... once again I'm looking for a solution from you... your anger is felt... I just want to know what you propose to do about it now that the nation has existed 60+ years... ... just call it quits? Hand the keys back over to the folks naturally from the land (... of which the jews would then argue it's rightfully theirs... and then the circle starts over again)...

    ... perhaps if all this religion went away... maybe that would solve a lot - yes? How do you get rid of all this religion?

    • good grief... I skipped over your craigslist link... hahaha... i thought that was all your jabber!!! :DPonyBoy
  • PonyBoy0

    Money & Religion...

    ... how do you get rid of them both and still have a happy human society?

  • DrBombay0

    It is absolutely confounding that George isn't just bagging on the Italian government everyday. Blows my mind the massive viagra hard-on this guy has for America.

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    This has got to W's fault, there's just no one else to blame....Maybe it's Reagans fault, or Limbaughs, or palin or who knows..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp…

    • We know that it was not Clinton's fault. He left with a surplus, Bush turned into debtutopian
    • 80% of the current debt was there before Obama took office, and not there when W took office.luckyorphan
    • It's a pretty clear conclusion, cnaps.luckyorphan
    • So there was no recession when bush took office????
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    • There was the kernel of a recession, yes, but Bush's policies ignored and exacerbated it.luckyorphan
  • GeorgesII0

    I tried making a world politics thread which was completely ignored,
    Italy is a whole other level of fuckedupness right now, but what can I say if I say something here, nobody will participate...
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    anyways, if you want me to lead you,
    I WILL LEAD YOU,
    as the new democratic elected president of QBN Politics Thread.
    My first act will be to put to death anyone who says I'm not the PRES!!

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    I don't understand the public's confusion about what's going on. Private corporations naturally seek to limit competition.

    The larger ones, as their dominance grows, buy competition and use government influence to enhance this self preservation. Once you're at the top, or sharing space there, what are you going to do?

    Wall Street, Health Care, Industrial Ag; all of them oligopolies, with Industrial Ag probably being the closest to monopoly status.

    They've essentially bought the government. The Tea Baggers sense this but fail to understand it's the federal government's role to protect public, ie national, interests.

    FDR used to be able to say this publicly, and did in his inaugural addresses, knowing he public understood. He actually railed against the lack of ethics in business, and in government. But he knew who was supposed to be on first: The public's corporation, Uncle Sam - you know, Linocln's governemt for and by and ..fuck it...you morons don't actually care about this stuff.

    Go watch your American Idol and think you're being politically pro-active by calling Obama "Barry" and having one of them fancy-pants Joker stickers.

    Yeah. You know it;s not like the GOP hasn't copted you already for their own purposes. You won't notice.

    The TeaBag Troll Contingent here, like the rest of the teabag morons, seems to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome where they crave to be "liked" by their captors. "Yes, but Exxon/DuPont/Monsanto/GM are all about free markets! You must hate free markets you commie small dick person! Why I love free markets! The SUpreme COurt just said these guys can spend all they want on politics now! My kinda fellows, they're my best buds, right?" *hugs Exxon/DuPont/Monsanto/GM, thanks them for being stellar corporate oligarchies

    OK everyone. Bend over again and grab your ankles. You know the drill.

    • +1000000000000000000...BRNK
    • "teabaggers" are at least taking some action for a cause. Your rant on a design board is decidedly less virtuous.timjames
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    *cough, cough*

    “PG&E Corp. plans to spend $25 million to $35 million on a California ballot initiative that would limit the ability of cities and counties to go into the public power business, the company reported Friday.

    PG&E Corp. is the parent company of the Pacific Gas and Electric Co. utility, which is fighting efforts by Marin County and San Francisco to start their own power agencies. Proposition 16, on the June 8 ballot, would force any local governments that want to establish electrical service to win the approval of two-thirds of their voters first.

    So far, PG&E has supplied all of the proposition campaign's funding, totaling $6.5 million. On Friday, PG&E took the unusual step of telling its investors that funding for the campaign would affect the company's 2010 profits, lowering them by 6 to 9 cents per share.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar…

    Yup. Getting themselves a piece of that democracy pie. So, SumWork, how much money you giving to your local representative to keep your taxes low and keep your freedoms intact? $10, $20?

    I am sure your interests will be well represented.

    Thanks Republican Supreme Court! You Rock! America Fuck Yeah.