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Your an AMAZING photographer!- Hey thank you! This reminds me I must set up a proper photo showcase. These are pics from one fruitful Thursday...raf
- ...in Dublin. On a sunny summer day contrast is fantastic. It was sunny, rainy, all in a few hours of wandering.raf
- I don't think I ever had a good day of pics like that, that's why I set up the c.a.r.g.o. page.raf
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Move to Amend. Sign it.
On January 21, 2010, with its ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are persons, entitled by the U.S. Constitution to buy elections and run our government. Human beings are people; corporations are legal fictions. The Supreme Court is misguided in principle, and wrong on the law. In a democracy, the people rule.
We Move to Amend.
We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United, and move to amend our Constitution to:* Firmly establish that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons entitled to constitutional rights.
* Guarantee the right to vote and to participate, and to have our votes and participation count.
* Protect local communities, their economies, and democracies against illegitimate "preemption" actions by global, national, and state governments.
- ukit0
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLI…
John Roberts at his confirmation hearings a few years ago:
"My personal appreciation that I owe a great debt to others reinforces my view that a certain humility should characterize the judicial role.
Judges and justices are servants of the law, not the other way around. Judges are like umpires. Umpires don't make the rules; they apply them.
The role of an umpire and a judge is critical. They make sure everybody plays by the rules.
But it is a limited role. Nobody ever went to a ball game to see the umpire.
Judges have to have the humility to recognize that they operate within a system of precedent, shaped by other judges equally striving to live up to the judicial oath.
I have no agenda, but I do have a commitment...I will remember that it's my job to call balls and strikes and not to pitch or bat."
Fucking....LOL
- "I will close Gitmo in 12 months" —Obama
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- "I will close Gitmo in 12 months" —Obama
- ukit0
And this is how John Roberts chooses to act now that he actually has power:
http://politicsmagazine.com/maga…
There are two things about the Citizens United case that seem to really irk McCain and Feingold. The first is the Supreme Court broadening the scope of the case during the rearguments to consider the constitutionality of the law. The Court could still rule narrowly in the case and avoid that question. It could say that provisions of McCain-Feingold don’t apply to video-on-demand. It could also say that the law doesn’t apply to a group like Citizens United, which only took small contributions from corporate donors. “Until a few months ago,” Feingold said on the Senate floor, “no one had any idea that the Citizens United case would potentially become the vehicle for such a wholesale uprooting of the principles that have governed the financing of our elections for so long.”
It does not look like the Court is going to rule narrowly. There is a theory among observers that the court held the rearguments in September—a month before its fall session was scheduled to begin—so it could rule in time to influence the 2010 elections. (Although, as the Court’s decision didn’t come down in 2009, some are beginning to wonder how broad the delayed ruling will be and if it will affect the midterm elections at all.)
To McCain and Feingold, this is judicial activism at its worst—albeit from conservative justices who routinely condemn judicial activism. “Activist judges—regardless of whether it is liberal or conservative activism—assume the judiciary is a super legislature of moral philosophers, entitled to support Congress’ policy choices whenever they choose,” McCain said. “I believe this judicial activism is wrong and is contrary to the Constitution.” Feingold went so far as to quote Chief Justice Roberts’ testimony during his confirmation hearings in which he enumerated his fealty to precedent.
That ties into the second thing that bothers McCain and Feingold. In the rearguments for Citizens United, the conservative wing of the bench actively questioned whether members of Congress can fairly legislate election law since they have a stake in the game—namely that they want to be reelected. Justice Scalia said, “I doubt that one can expect a body of incumbents to draw election restrictions that do not favor incumbents.”
To McCain, Scalia’s statement questions his integrity. And it really gets to him. He called Scalia’s remark an “affront.” “It exposed his belief that when it comes to issues relating to campaign finance reform, he is somehow a better arbiter of what is needed to reform the electoral process than the Congress or the American people,” McCain said. In some ways, McCain framed his remarks as a showdown between the legislative and judicial branches. Repeatedly, McCain argued, Congress has acted in the best interest of the people to regulate campaign finance.
“Whatever one thinks of a First Amendment right for corporations,” he said, “it is not appropriate for a nondemocratic branch of government to raise a question of the broadest scope at the last minute when such a question was not raised in the trial court.”
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Google Audio Indexing Lab
http://labs.google.com/gaudiSearch what the politicians are saying. No one is going to get away with anything, with this tool.
- ukit0
Now it looks like Ben Bernanke may not have the votes to get reelected as Fed chairman. Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer announced their opposition today.
I'll believe it when I see it but, maybe the Brown election wasn't such a bad thing...it seems to have scared some sense into the Dems.
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- How is this political?DrBombay
- Because Al Qaeda is currently the combatant of a war we're in...mathinc
- No war was ever declared, just sayin'DrBombay
- dobs... do you concede this is political?... or are you gonna run w/your new topic about 'war' not being declared?PonyBoy
- Not sure how it is political. Is there a disagreement on it?DrBombay
- so you don't concede... even though foreign policy is created / adjusted based on al qaeda's actions / ties / influence?PonyBoy
- Nope. Just wondering why it is political is all. If it is in your estimation, great.DrBombay
- You sure are interested in me conceding though. Seems a tad serious for a fucking clown like you.DrBombay
- so even logical arguments can't get you to concede reality...
*goes back to hunting unicornsPonyBoy - That guy's name is Carlos Bledsoe and he is from Memphis.DrBombay
- I told you... it's my joy to ride your ass as you make it so easy.PonyBoy
- You guys can get all scared of Al Qaeda and MAKE it political if you want. But that dude is from Memphis.DrBombay
- The guy has 'ties to Al Qaeda'... so - if during WWII someone had ties to Hitler but was from Oklahoma...PonyBoy
- ...(and was suspect in a crime)... it wouldn't mean shit... right?PonyBoy
- you are burying your head in some seriously dangerous and naive thinking, rickPonyBoy
- The guy is changing his plea and saying he is al qaeda to avoid the death penalty.DrBombay
- You are an ignorant fucking person.DrBombay
- and you're a dangerous weak-minded twit...
... but I still like you. ;)PonyBoy - You think this guy is Al Qaeda? hahahahahahahaDrBombay
- and you don't!!!
hahahaha... AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...PonyBoy - I think you're just scared to acknowledge the danger of Al Qaeda because somehow that would mean all the Republicanmathinc
- chest thumping was justified. I see it often with some liberals and it's kind of weird, they act like terrorists are fairy tales.mathinc
- This guy is plea bargaining to not get the death penalty. Jihadis don't do that.DrBombay
- And that has bearing on whether or not this is 'political'...mathinc
- What topic are we talking about, him being a jihadi or this being political?DrBombay
- You have a shorter attention span than ponyboy. Do you have a vaporizer too?DrBombay
- I see this as a law enforcement issue no matter who is president. getting scared and bringing up osama bin laden is not helping anything in this world.DrBombay
- doing nothing but helping that cause expand.DrBombay
- wait...
... what?
*puff *puff... *COUUUGH COUGGH!!PonyBoy - What the fuck are you the Grand Marshall of the Politics thread?? You need to let some of the air our that huge head.mathinc
- *outmathinc
- I have a short attention span?!? Man you have NO attention span. 3rd graders have better reading comprehension.mathinc
- DrBombay0
Dear Conservative Movement: Stop Ruining My Life, by Michael Brendan Dougherty
- blaw0
All I'm saying is this: At the end of an entire year's worth of work, where nothing else was accomplished, if the health care plan is scrapped we should be able to fire every last deadbeat imbecile in Washington.
Fuck around for a year and have nothing to show for it.
- BonSeff0
5 Jokes About The Apparent Eagerness Of Certain Democratic Members Of Congress To Abandon Health Care Reform In Light Of Scott Brown’s Electoral Victory1. A Democratic congressman walks into a bar. The bartender says, “Sorry, we don’t serve your kind here.” The Democratic congressman whimpers, “You’re right, I’m sorry, I never should’ve come in here, it’s all my fault, boo-hoo, please, bend me over, I’ll do whatever you want because I’m a little punk.” The bartender says, “Jesus Christ, you people are pathetic.”
2. What do you call a dead baby with no arms and no legs wearing a sombrero? I don’t know, but whatever you call it, it’s got about 1,000% more fight in it than these jackass Democrats.
3. A member of the House Democratic Caucus goes to the doctor. The doctor says, “I have bad news and good news. The bad news is you have a broken foot. The good news is, you’re a congressman, which means you have health insurance, which means you’ll be able to get treatment without going totally bankrupt, unlike many of your constituents, who you are actively betraying by thinking only of your electoral prospects. And also,” the doctor continued, “I can’t believe you actually broke your foot by jumping off a bridge just because a Republican told you to. What kind of spineless loser are you? Get out of my office. I can’t stand to look at you.”
4. The entire United States Senate is flying on a plane when its engines start to fail. The plane starts falling through the sky. There are 100 senators on board, but only 41 parachutes. The Democrats say, “Let’s give all the parachutes to the Republicans—that way we can just sit on our fat asses and die while the plane crashes because we’re a bunch of self-hating pussies.”
5. Little Johnny Congressman (D) was sitting in class one day. All of a sudden, he needed to go to the bathroom. He yelled out, “Miss Jones, I need to go pee!” The teacher replied, “Johnny, that is NOT the proper word to use in this situation. The proper word is ‘urinate.’ Use the word ‘urinate’ in a sentence correctly, and I will let you go.” Little Johnny thought for a bit, then said, “If a Republican wanted to urinate on me, I would let him because I have no self-respect.”
- ukit0
Scott Brown arrives in Washington...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp…
Brown and his aides walked to the airport exit, where the first television cameras awaited. A reporter from the TMZ Web site, which has made much of the senator-elect's much-discussed 1982 nude centerfold from Cosmopolitan magazine, asked whether he was "bringing sexy back to the Republican Party," Brown politely answered, "Happy to be here."
[Brown's] prior visits to Washington, he explained, were mostly to watch his daughter Ayla, a college basketball player, play against American University, or to visit the monuments "as a tourist."
"I'm a history buff," he said. "I love the Museum of Natural History."
- utopian0
- Why Colin Powell? He helped Obama win.********
- Powell could have stopped the Iraq War, and single-handedly made Bush a one-term pres.luckyorphan
- But he chose his duty to his president over his duty to his country and the truth. Greatest tragic hero ever.luckyorphan
- or... he followed his conscience and felt he was doing the right thing given the time and circumstance...PonyBoy
- ... nice way to cheapen a man's dignity and honor, luckydorkphan.PonyBoy
- Colin Powel is a douche (I'm being kind), no way I'm defending his record when he has none and is a doucheGeorgesII
- douchetard powel, you lied and now the irak war will always be associated with your lies,GeorgesII
- he wasn't the guy in charge, george... what the hell do you want from him? as far as I'm concerned... he recanted...PonyBoy
- ... and did what he could to separate himself when his eyes (like many of ours) were open to the reality of the situation...PonyBoy
- ... that the intel was in fact 'weak' and rather misrepresenting of the truth... i have to respect the guy for thatPonyBoy
- Powell cheapened himself by allowing himself to be used by an administration that did not value him.luckyorphan
- I applaud him for his service, and his interview last year before the election was pivotal and insightful.luckyorphan
- But that doesn't change the fact that he was perhaps the only person who could have stopped the war in Iraq.luckyorphan
- Why Colin Powell? He helped Obama win.
- luckyorphan0
Here's to more hopin':
Obama Calls Team From 2008 for Races in Fall
WASHINGTON — President Obama is reconstituting the team that helped him win the White House to counter Republican challenges in the midterm elections and recalibrate after political setbacks that have narrowed his legislative ambitions.
- dude doesn't know how handle anything w/out making a fucking campaign out of it... he's not gonna last more than a termPonyBoy
- Why do people ignore the fact he ran as a moderate and his policies are marxist communist?? HELLO!********
- Hi!mathinc
- Sigh...unreal.luckyorphan
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Imo, Obama's upcoming state of the union address is going to be one of the most anticipated, and fascinating speeches to watch. I think that many Americans will be watching and listening very carefully. The pressure that Obama is feeling right now must be quite high.
- luckyorphan0
Would someone please show me some clear, brief and specific examples of the president's apparent marxist/communist actions?
No partisan sources, please. Strict untainted reporting only.
I just don't see it.
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Lucky^ This image shows obama teaching saul alinksy social structure for society. Alinksy also wrote a book called Rules For Radicals that is pretty alarming unless you're a communist.
Obama mentor was frank marshall davis. A known communist in Hawaii. Have you even taken the time to look into frank marshall davis?
Even joel gets is luckyorphan!
Why don't you look up the definition of marxism and communism, maybe even fascism. Obama already bought the auto, banks and healthcare and energy are next on his agenda. He believes are services should be controlled by the government.
nice pictures in the Obama campaign offices houston
- Image #1: Please prove that he is teaching from that book.luckyorphan
- The rest does not fit my request. Strict untainted reporting, please. Please drop the innuendo and get to the facts.luckyorphan
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Part 2
Part 1 - Obama's Ties to Socialism, Marxism, and Communism
1. Obama's Father Wrote About Socialism - His father wrote a paper called "Problems With Our Socialism" that advocates 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and the forced confiscation of privately controlled land. Source: Greg Ransom, PrestoPundit
2. Obama's Mother Was a "Communist Sympathizer" - " Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report" Source: Spengler, Asia Times "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics - Barack Obama" Source: Tim Jones, Chicago Tribune
3. Obama's Parents Met in a Russian Class (Back then it was the Communist USSR) - "His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (her father always wanted a son), was white and just 18 when they met in a Russian class" Source: Sharon Cohen, St Louis Times
4. Obama's Teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known CPUSA member) - "...through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his poetry and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just Frank." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media "Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979" Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)
5. Obama's Brother Roy and Cousin Odinga are Marxists - "Barack Obama's older brother, Abongo "Roy" Obama. He is a Luo activist. militant Muslim and a Marxist." Source: Barbara Busby, 180people.com “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy Source: Bill Sammon, The Examiner "Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country" Source: Invenstor's Business Daily
6. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union - "He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he'd become "one of those freaks you see on the streets around here." Source: H Kennedy, NY Daily News
7. Obama Was Hand Picked by Alice Palmer to Succeed Her in the Illinois State Senate - "Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986." Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)
8. Obama's Run for the Illinois State Senate was Launched by a Fundraiser Organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago Home - Ayers and Dorhn are former terrorists from the Weather Underground who's SDS organization received financial contributions from the CPUSA. "Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat." Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)
9. Obama Had a Close Relationship with the "Anti-Capitalist" Group ACORN - "Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn)...Chicago Acorn appears to have played a major role in Obama’s political advance...Acorn’s radical agenda sometimes shifts toward “undisguised authoritarian socialism.” Source: Stanley Kurtz, National Review10. Obama Attended Several Meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago and Was even Endorsed by Them - "Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media "In its broadest sense, democratic socialism could refer to any attempts to bring about socialism through democratic means as opposed to violent insurrection." Source: Wikipedia
11. Obama Endorsed Openly Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders - Video " "Sanders is the first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate." Source: Wikipedia
12. Many Obama Supporters Idolize Che Guervara - Obama Campaign Worker Seen With Communist Cuba Flag Depicting Marxist Che Guevara on it. Source: David Benzion, Lone Star Times
"Guevara later served as Minister of Industries, in which post he helped formulate Cuban socialism...Guevara played a key role in bringing to Cuba the Soviet nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. During an interview with the British newspaper Daily Worker some weeks later, he stated that, if the missiles had been under Cuban control, they would have fired them against major U.S. cities." Source: Wikipedia
More "Che" fans from Obama's site:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/d…
http://my.barackobama.com/page/d…
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http://my.barackobama.com/page/c…
http://illinois.barackobama .com/pa...rd/public/CC8v
http://my.barackobama.com/page/d…
http://nevada.barackobama.c om/page.../public/gGVCjm
http://iowa.barackobama.com /page/c...up/IowaHQ/CJQ3
http://my.barackobama.com/page/d…
http://my.barackobama.com/page/d…13. The Communist Party USA Endorsed Obama - "Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election." Source: CPUSA Website (This line has since been removed from the CPUSA website) - Search for this quote. Also see THIS post on the CPUSA blog...
Then we have this blog on mybarackobama.com (Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama):
From the blog: "Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama - This group is for self-proclaimed Marxists/Communists/Socialists for the election of Barack Obama to the Presidency...We support Barack Obama because he knows what is best for the people! Source: Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama Source: Aaron Klein, WorldNetDaily
14. Obama's Church is Rooted in Liberation Theology which is Rooted in Marxism - " The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology" Source: TUCC Website "Simply put, Liberation Theology is an attempt to interpret Scripture through the plight of the poor. It is largely a humanistic doctrine. It started in South America in the turbulent 1950's when Marxism was making great gains among the poor because of its emphasis on the redistribution of wealth, allowing poor peasants to share in the wealth of the colonial elite and thus upgrade their economic status in life." Source: gotquestions.org
15. Obama's Opening Band - The band that opened for Obama's Oregon rally (The Decemberists) is named after an 1825 revolt over the Imperial Russian succession (Decembrist revolt) that Meloy views as an attempted communist revolution. They also open many of their shows by playing the Soviet National Anthem... Source: Jeff Johnson, OneNewsNow Source: Jerome R. Corsi, WorldNetDaily Source: Oleg Atbashian, Pajamasmedia
- 1. Obama wrote a whole book about how he never knew his father.luckyorphan
- 2-15. There is nothing here but innuendo. No facts. No actual acts of marxism/communism as president.luckyorphan
- The U.S. Gov & Rumsfeld met with & supported Bin Layden & Hussein in the 80's. That makes them terrorist right?utopian
- luckyorphan0
^ Seriously? That's your evidence? The Decemberists?
- Just incredible.luckyorphan
- I'm not saying he's right but what did you want? Obama wearing a t-shirt that says 'I <3 Socialism'?mathinc
- I'm looking for concrete, irrefutable, or at least respectable evidence. Not innuendo.luckyorphan
- For all the research Fred's done, I expected more real info, instead of who Obama shared rooms with.luckyorphan
- Fred said that Obama's "policies are marxist/communist". Show me one. Prove it.luckyorphan
- Aren't we, to a degree, the company we keep?mathinc
- Oh I agree with you there.. except for the fact that we now own auto, banking and possibly healthcare... :Dmathinc
- and he said he's for 'wealth redistribution.'mathinc
- I just think we need to be more cautious when we start asking our government to provide for us. You have to remember thatmathinc
- the powers you give to the government you trust will still be accessible to the future government. What happens whenmathinc
- when we end up with another Bush? It's going to happen. American History is littered with failed leaders. You want them tomathinc
- have the same access to our industry? The CEO of one of the largest auto manufacturers was fired. That doesn't scare you?mathinc
- Why should it scare me? The audo industry asked for billions, and expected the lender to not have a say?luckyorphan
- Then what is socialism to you if it's not publicly funded government ownership of industry with government control?mathinc
- control?mathinc
