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- ukit0
Public option is just a government run insurance group for people who can't get regular insurance through their employer.
- Has nothing to do with drug makers or research side of thingsukit
- exactly the industry, the research and innovation will cont. no matter whateieio
- not yet ukit babystpes leading down the inevitable path. and no innovation wont continue at the same rate.********
- what is medicare and medicaid. those dont come from employers? look at there outcome********
- other countries have typhoons so it must mean its good, i mean come one look at the kind of logic your basing ideas on********
- on. it makes no sense where the reason tree so i can break a branch and beat you with it********
- hahaha, cmon dude give it a restukit
- yea. i guess i will for a bit.********
- so people will stop going to school and stop dreaming cause of Gov healthcare ?BattleAxe
- eieio0
yeah I understand it now and seems a lot more like an american made solution, something that makes sense for healthcare but doesn't make you a bunch of commies.
- I'm just glad I'm a social country because we've figured this out long ago and don't have to make compromiseseieio
- did u not understand your eco nomic system is different and if projected has the same terrible outcome********
- dont jsut ask for supporting facts or naysaying facts work out the projections for yourself. use soem critical thinking********
- what makes u think canadian healthcare is lasting? what makes u think its superior? perhapos thats where to start********
- figure out where youre coming from in order to explain its false********
- ********0
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- ********0
Gore-Backed Car Firm Gets Large U.S. Loan
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB…A tiny car company backed by former Vice President Al Gore has just gotten a $529 million U.S. government loan to help build a hybrid sports car in Finland that will sell for about $89,000.
The award this week to California startup Fisker Automotive Inc. follows a $465 million government loan to Tesla Motors Inc., purveyors of a $109,000 British-built electric Roadster. Tesla is a California startup focusing on all-electric vehicles, with a number of celebrity endorsements that is backed by investors that have contributed to Democratic campaigns.
The awards to Fisker and Tesla have prompted concern from companies that have had their bids for loans rejected, and criticism from groups that question why vehicles aimed at the wealthiest customers are getting loans subsidized by taxpayers.
"This is not for average Americans," said Leslie Paige, a spokeswoman for Citizens Against Government Waste, an anti-tax group in Washington. "This is for people to put something in their driveway that is a conversation piece. It's status symbol thing."
- read about this a while ago. I wonder what other project Gore is getting funded...zenmasterfoo
- thats terrible********
- Is it possible that the technology developed will trickle down into mainstream automobile design? Trickle down, isnt that a phrase you can relate to?Josev
- down, isnt that a phrase you can relate to?Josev
- cheney gore same tricks different sides of the coin, the trick is to realize what the coin is********
- DrBombay0
There is going to be a public option whether you morons like it or not. If it doesn't happen this year it will happen in the next 10 and you know I am right. Get on the right side of history this time you fucking simple-headed monkeys.
- yes just like those guys who were on fdr's side. all those policies have been flawless********
- but youre right its likely to happen because people arent well Educated. they ar eonly good and repeating their teams sides these days********
- slogans, without any ability to think at all********
- //Yes, America's private system is working out great and the other billions of people on the planet are fucking idiots.DrBombay
- Dr, Bombay, you're a faggot.********
- No americas private sector is still far to restricted by laws. And its social taboo that you must have insurance only increases costs. and its uneducated populace buying into any new drug********
- increases costs. not to mention peoples education and their consumerist nature to over consume prescriptions and worthless care.********
- worthless care. and hey billions(?) of peopel once beleived the world was flat, lots of people believe in a god. are those correct too Doc?********
- things true because of numbers Doc? By your reasoning reality must be an interesting place. have to take a poll to know something.********
- yes just like those guys who were on fdr's side. all those policies have been flawless
- johndiggity0
so some preliminary stimulus numbers are in, and apparently already under scrutiny. of the $780 billion allocated for the recovery act, they are estimating about 40% has been issued. that's about $312 billion to create and save jobs in the us.
estimated jobs created and/or saved under this program is 30,000 (which the ap has reported to have been overstated). even so, when you do the math on this, the us government is spending a staggering $10.4 million per job created and saved.
while each state is ultimately responsible for the jobs it creates with its share of the stimulus, i cannot see how this is anything but an enormous waste of our money and yet another example of the united states government's complete ineptitude for fiscal management, accountability, and responsibility.
- ukit0
Well, the U.S. economy is growing again so it can't be all bad can it?
http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?p…
Oct. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks rallied, sending benchmark indexes to their biggest advance since July, after the economy returned to growth following the worst contraction in seven decades. Treasuries dropped and the dollar and yen weakened, while commodities surged.
Caterpillar Inc., Alcoa Inc. and American Express Co. jumped at least 5.1 percent after the Commerce Department said gross domestic product grew at a 3.5 percent pace from July through September after shrinking for four straight quarters. Motorola Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., Newmont Mining Corp. and Kellogg Co. climbed on better-than-estimated earnings.
“The fourth quarter will be the Waterloo of the bears,” said E. William Stone, who oversees $102 billion as chief investment strategist at PNC Wealth Management in Philadelphia. “We are in economic recovery both in the U.S. and globally, so you will eventually see revenue growth because you are seeing the recovery hold.”
- recovery is natural progress, its not a barometer. its likely progress would have been quicker with less debt********
- not to mention the growth is from temporary jobs from stimulus dollars but not much growth in private sector********
- recovery is natural progress, its not a barometer. its likely progress would have been quicker with less debt
- locustsloth0
Dr.B, did you happen to listen to last Sunday's This American Life? Interesting segment at the end about how the way hospitals force deals with insurance companies (differnt prices for same procedures between hospitals and areas) either drive prices up or cause the companies who have a smaller share to drop coverage in certain areas. The expert postulated that the public option may not be that great beacuse increasing the amount of competitiion would do more of the same.
i guess the state of Maryland dictates the prices for all the procedures performed so that insurance companies are actually on a level playing field.
It was interesting to hear a different LOGICAL perspective for me, as someone who would like to see a public option.http://www.thisamericanlife.org/…
(act 4 is what i'm talkin bout)
- ********0
If we want to copy EU shit so badly perhaps we should look at ryanair. The possibilities provided with real deregulation. Natural economics brings price down as long as it not profitable to keep prices high playing the game of gov policies. .
- try applying this thinking to the healthcare system. doesnt cost trillions********
- try applying this thinking to the healthcare system. doesnt cost trillions
- ********0
Watch the last 5 mins.
Watch the whole thing and download the pdf presentation if you're interested in global warming.
- johndiggity0
example of some of language in the healthcare bill:
“(a) Outpatient Hospitals – (1) In General – Section 1833(t)(3)(C)(iv) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395(t)(3)(C)(iv)) is amended – (A) in the first sentence – (i) by inserting “(which is subject to the productivity adjustment described in subclause (II) of such section)” after “1886(b)(3)(B)(iii); and (ii) by inserting “(but not below 0)” after “reduced”; and (B) in the second sentence, by inserting “and which is subject, beginning with 2010 to the productivity adjustment described in section 1886(b)(3)(B)(iii)(II)”.
if you were trying to start a new initiative at your company, would your writing be the same?
- IRNlun60
An issue that both sides of the isle are supporting...
- johndiggity0
the administration and timothy geitner want a weak dollar, but can't and won't come out and say it. a weaker us dollar is good in their eyes because it makes us exports more attractive, which hopefully fuels us manufacturing jobs. however, if they publicly back this policy, it piss off china, who is a major us debt holder and who has also pegged their currency to the dollar. the danger is that china starts selling off their debt and the dollar drops drastically. this is a fine line the administration is walking with regard to monetary policy. if it works, it will be good in the long run. however, it has the potential to turn south very quickly.
- this was a bush policy.zenmasterfoo
- When are you going to see past Bush and look at reality? Watch the Fall of the republic online for free.********
- ********0
Happy Monday you fucking liberal fuck fucks.
- ********0
For Dems, times are a-changin'
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/…...by mid-October, according to Gallup: "(The president's) 9-point drop (to 52.9 percent) in the most recent quarter (July 20 through Oct. 19) is the largest drop Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953." He now hovers at just above the critical 50 percent approval.
A recent Rasmussen poll also reported that "26 percent of the nation's voters strongly approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. That's the lowest level of strong approval yet measured for this president."
- arent third party parties also gaining more ground.********
- Nice try JaxX but that is an Op-Ed piece and the writer works for a PR firm...robotron3k
- arent third party parties also gaining more ground.
- utopian0
Glenn Beck: Gay Canadian Porn Star?
http://answers.yahoo.com/questio…
- DrBombay0
It's funny how this thread died out when people stopped engaging the trolls.
- i'd guess its that people are fickle. and there is no real new news being reported on.********
- but hey don't take my word for it, you'll have to poll a bunch of people and believe the greatest number doc********
- i'd guess its that people are fickle. and there is no real new news being reported on.
- fooler20
Rush Limbaugh on Obama "he has an out of this world ego, he's very narcissistic and he's able to focus all attention on him all the time". I thought he was describing himself.
