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- sted2
McKinnon is so good :D
- kona0
2008: You Can See Russia From Alaska- SarahPalin
2017: Your Microwave Is Spying On You- #KellyanneConwayGOP- You've Come A Long Way, Baby!
- Sarah palin never said that... that was Tina Fey as SP (to be fair)PonyBoy
- Ummm pretty sure Palin did say that and Tina repeated on SNLRamanisky2
- Not in the dipsy "i'm an idiot' way Tina Fey delivered it. She mentioned in an interview w/Charlie Rose I think (answering his Q) that you can actually see AKPonyBoy
- He asked a Q about proximity of Russia... she didn't respond "LA LA LAA FROM MY HOUSE!!" like Tina Fey.PonyBoy
- https://www.youtube.…fooler
- This interview is even better...I forgot how hilarious she was
https://youtu.be/gk8…yuekit - I conceded she said it... but A) She's right... you can see it... so what's the big deal? B) I was pointing out that the Tina Fey deal is what folks remember.PonyBoy
- If you want to get technical that there are 2 islands - one Russia one America - less than 3 miles apart that you can see only when there's clear view, yes.kona
- But common, your argument is as weak as both of their statements.kona
- The statement is true, kona—true statement to push a sarcastic statement is kinda silly—you sound like a bandwagon idiot instead of someone with a useful point.PonyBoy
- good idea, let's make fun of women. here's a list of more GOP broads we can harass...Gnash
- http://www.cbsnews.c…Gnash
- "What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of this state give you?"kona
- "They're our next door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia, from land here in Alaska."
While technically true, contextually ignorant.kona - Now, let's discuss how a microwave can turn into a camera because I'd really like to know. I literally just installed a new GE microwave this past weekendkona
- that I fear is taking photos of my family and I.kona
- What's 'contextually ignorant' is using something joked about on SNL (that happened to be true) to attack an entire political partyPonyBoy
- "9:37PM - the subject continues to to be unaware of the popcorn setting, thus burning it again. wife unhappy"BonSeff
- Actually—you may want to look closer at the tech Samsung etc are putting in any of their 'smart' devices—Beavis is not far off here (although tin-foily 4sure)PonyBoy
- "Microwaves turning into cameras"
lol BonSeff. It does have a popcorn setting which can only mean one thing, it's a transmitter with a direct feed to the ciakona - "spying from the gubment" was a thing way back when with the xbox 360 and that went no where.kona
- If you're suggesting "seeing Russia from Alaska" isn't a jackass comment because of her serious speaking manner, you must be that half of Americans.CyBrainX
- lol @ CyBrain, so truemonospaced
- Amazing you guys get hung up on a TRUE statement... but Tina Fey said make fun of her... so it must be a jackass statement. :) got itPonyBoy
- Her statement wasn't true, though. Sure she might be able to see Russia, but her statement that was somehow relevant was a complete crock of BS.monospaced
- That's what the joke was. Palin being in close proximity to Russia, living in Alaska, was not a selling point on her ability to handle foreign relations.monospaced
- That's what people got hung up on. It was a claim of such stupidity, levels of which we haven't seen until Trump. Absolutely ridiculous stupid.monospaced
- She was right to be mocked. She had no insight due to her proximity. She's a jackass, for sure.monospaced
- Her statement WAS true, mono... you can see Russia from Alaska. :) If you want to say she was avoiding answering a Q cuz it was too hard... I'll give you that.PonyBoy
- My point from the start here is kona wouldn't have made his post if not for Tina Fey filling your head w/that ditsy bullshit. You can indeed see RUS from AK. :)PonyBoy
- And if you're gonna run w/Kellyanne and Sarah P as your examples of the state of the GOP you truly aren't paying attention.PonyBoy
- I'm saying she's clueless. Of course it's true, it's just not answering the question with a truthful, relevant answer. :)monospaced
- Oh, and Palin is a ditz. She filled the public's head with that idea, not Tina Fey.monospaced
- The question she was asked was why the fuck does she think being able to see Russia makes her qualified to talk about it politically? It doesn't.monospaced
- Also, I'm not convinced in the slightest that she can see it from AK in the first place. I guess you're just seeing what my reaction is at this point ;)monospaced
- oh c'mon... 3 miles on a clear day? I can see over 20 miles from my 4th floor apartment (I can see South Mountain from my house!!) :DPonyBoy
- BonSeff1
That address though
Kushners Set to Get $400 Million From Chinese Firm on Tower
- allthethings0
It goes on from here. An estimated 24 million will lose their insurance.
CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE
COST ESTIMATE
March 13, 2017
American Health Care Act
Budget Reconciliation Recommendations of the House Committees on Ways and Means
and Energy and Commerce, March 9, 2017
SUMMARY
The Concurrent Resolution on the Budget for Fiscal Year 2017 directed the House
Committees on Ways and Means and Energy and Commerce to develop legislation to
reduce the deficit. The Congressional Budget Office and the staff of the Joint Committee
on Taxation (JCT) have produced an estimate of the budgetary effects of the American
Health Care Act, which combines the pieces of legislation approved by the two committees
pursuant to that resolution. In consultation with the budget committees, CBO used its
March 2016 baseline with adjustments for subsequently enacted legislation, which
underlies the resolution, as the benchmark to measure the cost of the legislation.
Effects on the Federal Budget
CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the legislation would reduce federal deficits by
$337 billion over the 2017-2026 period. That total consists of $323 billion in on-budget
savings and $13 billion in off-budget savings. Outlays would be reduced by $1.2 trillion
over the period, and revenues would be reduced by $0.9 trillion.
The largest savings would come from reductions in outlays for Medicaid and from the
elimination of the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA’s) subsidies for nongroup health insurance.
The largest costs would come from repealing many of the changes the ACA made to the
Internal Revenue Code—including an increase in the Hospital Insurance payroll tax rate
for high-income taxpayers, a surtax on those taxpayers’ net investment income, and annual
fees imposed on health insurers—and from the establishment of a new tax credit for health
insurance.
Pay-as-you-go procedures apply because enacting the legislation would affect direct
spending and revenues. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the legislation would not
increase net direct spending or on-budget deficits by more than $5 billion in any of the four
consecutive 10-year periods beginning in 2027.
2
Effects on Health Insurance Coverage
To estimate the budgetary effects, CBO and JCT projected how the legislation would
change the number of people who obtain federally subsidized health insurance through
Medicaid, the nongroup market, and the employment-based market, as well as many other
factors.
CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 14 million more people would be uninsured under the
legislation than under current law. Most of that increase would stem from repealing the
penalties associated with the individual mandate. Some of those people would choose not
to have insurance because they chose to be covered by insurance under current law only to
avoid paying the penalties, and some people would forgo insurance in response to higher
premiums.
Later, following additional changes to subsidies for insurance purchased in the nongroup
market and to the Medicaid program, the increase in the number of uninsured people
relative to the number under current law would rise to 21 million in 2020 and then to
24 million in 2026. The reductions in insurance coverage between 2018 and 2026 would
stem in large part from changes in Medicaid enrollment—because some states would
discontinue their expansion of eligibility, some states that would have expanded eligibility
in the future would choose not to do so, and per-enrollee spending in the program would be
capped. In 2026, an estimated 52 million people would be uninsured, compared with
28 million who would lack insurance that year under current law.
Stability of the Health Insurance Market
Decisions about offering and purchasing health insurance depend on the stability of the
health insurance market—that is, on having insurers participating in most areas of the
country and on the likelihood of premiums’ not rising in an unsustainable spiral. The
market for insurance purchased individually (that is, nongroup coverage) would be
unstable, for example, if the people who wanted to buy coverage at any offered price would
have average health care expenditures so high that offering the insurance would be
unprofitable. In CBO and JCT’s assessment, however, the nongroup market would
probably be stable in most areas under either current law or the legislation.
Under current law, most subsidized enrollees purchasing health insurance coverage in the
nongroup market are largely insulated from increases in premiums because their
out-of-pocket payments for premiums are based on a percentage of their income; the
government pays the difference. The subsidies to purchase coverage combined with the
penalties paid by uninsured people stemming from the individual mandate are anticipated
to cause sufficient demand for insurance by people with low health care expenditures for
the market to be stable.
3
Under the legislation, in the agencies’ view, key factors bringing about market stability
include subsidies to purchase insurance, which would maintain sufficient demand for
insurance by people with low health care expenditures, and grants to states from the Patient
and State Stability Fund, which would reduce the costs to insurers of people with high
health care expenditures. Even though the new tax credits would be structured differently
from the current subsidies and would generally be less generous for those receiving
subsidies under current law, the other changes would, in the agencies’ view, lower average
premiums enough to attract a sufficient number of relatively healthy people to stabilize the
market.
Effects on Premiums
The legislation would tend to increase average premiums in the nongroup market prior to
2020 and lower average premiums thereafter, relative to projections under current law. In
2018 and 2019, according to CBO and JCT’s estimates, average premiums for single
policyholders in the nongroup market would be 15 percent to 20 percent higher than under
current law, mainly because the individual mandate penalties would be eliminated,
inducing fewer comparatively healthy people to sign up.
Starting in 2020, the increase in average premiums from repealing the individual mandate
penalties would be more than offset by the combination of several factors that would
decrease those premiums: grants to states from the Patient and State Stability Fund (which
CBO and JCT expect to largely be used by states to limit the costs to insurers of enrollees
with very high claims); the elimination of the requirement for insurers to offer plans
covering certain percentages of the cost of covered benefits; and a younger mix of
enrollees. By 2026, average premiums for single policyholders in the nongroup market
under the legislation would be roughly 10 percent lower than under current law, CBO and
JCT estimate.
Although average premiums would increase prior to 2020 and decrease starting in 2020,
CBO and JCT estimate that changes in premiums relative to those under current law would
differ significantly for people of different ages because of a change in age-rating rules.
Under the legislation, insurers would be allowed to generally charge five times more for
older enrollees than younger ones rather than three times more as under current law,
substantially reducing premiums for young adults and substantially raising premiums for
older people.- I 'lost' my insurance when Obama's setup kicked-in... but I was able to buy a new plan. Isn't that the case here?PonyBoy
- I don't think so. They are talking mainly about people who won't be able to afford insurance.yuekit
- Under the new plan, they will be able to afford if they save accordingly.monospaced
- no way this gets past the senateBonSeff
- I'll take that bet :/monospaced
- Right. GOP says this is all about "choice." Like I can choose to have a Lamborghini.allthethings
- omg genetic affordable healthcare for all lolfadein11
- because this is just a budget reconciliation measure and not 'new legislation' they can avoid the filibuster on this... I think mono might be right =\BuddhaHat
- Mind numbing how people can be for this crap. A total fuck you to America. This country is fucked. Fucked.formed
- BonSeff3
Here's a big FUCK YOU to you, old people...
- CBO are fake actuaries! sad!BonSeff
- just don't buy iPhones and
don't get oldmoldero - this prob doesn't even take into account how much premiums will skyrocket once the individual mandate is repealed.sarahfailin
- Ramanisky25
- not shopped!sarahfailin
- shoudn't that be a pic of Trump?PonyBoy
- No, Obama is the one wiretapping microwaves. He wants to know all your secrets.sofakingback
- Ramanisky22
- Haha at the mismatched shoes.monospaced
- I think he's wearing a walking boot. Probably hurt his foot by putting it in his mouth too much.kona
- sprained his ankle trying to keep up with helmet in chief on the golf coursefadein11
- utopian2
Trump didn't mean wiretapping when he tweeted about wiretapping...what an asshat!
- #SarcasmRamanisky2
- This is what makes covering Donald Trump so very difficult. What does he mean when he says words?whatthefunk
- sted4
- if you don't know there is a connection between lead poisoning and cognitive deficits & mental illnesssted
- Do not tell that to omgzaq
- IQ map also correlates...inteliboy
- Thats actually hilarious, I read lead poisoning caused the Roman Empire to fall. Thats 2 down! Leads on a tear!sofakingback
- that's where i got the idea fromsted
- The lead exposure/contaminati... map is very likely to turn far more red in the coming years. In NYC everyone was bragging about how clean water is in schools...********
- ... and then someone pointed out that they would run the taps for up to a few hours before doing any testing.********
- So they did some tests without flushing, and found high levels of lead. It's pretty fucked up. This is probably representative of much of the country.********
- west coast is the best coast. west siiiiide!scarabin
- this map also shows where a few of our pro-Trump QBNrs livemoldero
- Ramanisky22
Sweet Baby Jesus on a rolling cracker
- things were so bad that insurance ceo pay has doubled for the highest earners under obama..BonSeff
- chukkaphob0
- disturbinginteliboy
- that she is, yeschukkaphob
- And yet more Americans voted for her than the current President. Sad!reanimate
- Theresa May or Hillary? I can't evenscruffics
- uh this is goodsted
- She dropped off the radar long ago. What's this about now?monospaced
- @mono you think so? hahahachukkaphob
- yeah, I do, what's so funny?monospaced
- the winner is such a loser they are still posting about the loserfadein11
- @mono you're (beyond) gullible to think "She dropped off the radar long ago." SMH!chukkaphob
- you know your a bad candidate when you lose to trumpmoldero
- @fadein11 what you wrote doesn't make (much) sense. I'm a winner? I'm such a loser? hahah! Wut?!chukkaphob
- @moldero yup. exactly!chukkaphob
- Gullible implies I am believing something I'm told ... that's not the case. She's not on the "radar" of media and politics now, that's simply true.monospaced
- also, what fadein wrote makes perfect sense ... Trump is such a loser that he & his people are still fixated on Hillarymonospaced
- thanks mono - glad someone got itfadein11
- but i'm not "his people.' I do not support Trump. So no, you're both way off.chukkaphob
- anyway, this discussion is dull.chukkaphob
- what's for lunch?chukkaphob
- someone's still fixated her, and it certainly isn't because she's on the public radar, that's for sure ... you do the mathmonospaced
- public radar? media radar? is that what matters to you, dude?chukkaphob
- it's a killer illustration! that's why i posted itchukkaphob
- but emails!!!pango
- what's for dinner?chukkaphob
- I already clarified the radars I meant. Where is she a focus, since it's clearly not a public or media one that she's appearing on? Seriously.monospaced
- *yawn*chukkaphob
- that's what I thought ... it's just another case of people saying "but emails" while Trump actively butt rapes his own supportersmonospaced
- whatthefunk5
- so full of lies.sarahfailin
- I reckon she thinks she looks like Pamela Anderson in her prime.BusterBoy
- yuekit0
U.S set to expand drone strikes under Trump
The Trump administration is close to finishing a review that would make it easier for the Pentagon to launch counterterrorism strikes anywhere in the world by lowering the threshold on acceptable civilian casualties and scaling back other constraints imposed by the Obama administration, senior U.S. officials said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/w…
President Donald Trump has given the Central Intelligence Agency secret new authority to conduct drone strikes against suspected terrorists, U.S. officials said, changing the Obama administration’s policy of limiting the spy agency’s paramilitary role.
- But Obama ...monospaced
- lol@monospacedBluejam
- Trump did say 'you've gotta kill their families'... looks like that's gonna happen now.BuddhaHat
- He's behind schedule on destroying ISIS in 30 daysfadein11
- ^ ISIS have been obliterated. His plan was so awesome no-one noticed. Even ISIS.face_melter
- Continuity0
This is just going from bad to worse. Someone should shut this cunt up permanently.
- this will work against the turks in the election this weekGnash
- This is also handing Geert Wilders the keys to the kingdom.Continuity
- ^ yupGnash
- This will help Erdogan gain nationalists support in his push for a presidency.IRNlun6
- https://youtu.be/whJ…dorfsman
- kona4
- Bluejam16
- lolz hahaRamanisky2
- opening the red pen ... hahamonospaced
- Ben Carson must have just woke up from his napBonSeff
- nappyBenRamanisky2
- lol********
- hahaharobotron3k
- bwahaha work of artyuekit
- lolmoldero
- hahahahahaha
GreatBusterBoy - LOL!waterhouse
- lolKrassy
