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- utopian3
- half of these are useless apples-oranges comparisonschukkaphob
- too many boobies pics will make your head go softutopian
- ^ yet another brain-dead useless "statistic" LMAO!chukkaphob
- ^ Chick of the Day Thread "to the left" LMAO!utopian
- you know SO much about those threads, because? LMAO!!! *cough* hypocrite *cough* haha!chukkaphob
- lol @ the gas price. in June 08 it was over $4. July it was over $4. By end of year it was just under 2 bucks. stupid people will latch onto the jan pricekona
- and compare the higher price now as a negative. oh well. it's nice to see opiate deaths up. sort em out and all...kona
- whatthefunk5
Trump shouted down CNN’s Jim Acosta as ‘fake news’ then took a question from Breitbart. Funny, this Doonesbury comic from 12/18 was a bit prophetic...
Here’s the question Trump took from Breitbart: “Given that CNN just published fake news and all the problems that we’ve seen throughout the media over the course of the election, what reforms do you recommend for this industry here?”
Trump:
“I don’t recommend reforms, I recommend people that have some moral compass,” Trump said in response to Breitbart News’ question. “You know, I’ve been hearing more and more about a thing called ‘Fake News.’ They’re talking about people that go and say all sorts of things. But I will tell you some of the media outlets I deal with are fake news, more so than anybody. I could name them but I won’t bother. You have a few sitting right in front of us [pointing to CNN’s Acosta and Sara Murray]. So, they’re very, very dishonest people. But, I think it’s something we’re just going to have to live with. I guess, the advantage I have is I can speak back. When it happens to somebody that doesn’t have this [points to microphone], doesn’t have that kind of a megaphone, it’s a very sad thing. I’ve seen people destroyed. I’ve seen people absolutely destroyed, and I think it’s very unfair. So all I can ask for is honest reporters.”You can search Bbart for their record of the questions, I refuse to post their links...
- he played the birther card for years and now wants integrity?BonSeff
- i never cared much about the topic, but there is some forensic evidence that the birth certificate Obama submitted may have been counterfeit.********
- I think he's got a good bead on how incompetent the government is right now. Especially after Barry leaves.robotron3k
- And yes the CIA wants to escalate with Russia in Syria.robotron3k
- Why?sted
- omg's beliefs:
9-11 was in inside job
pizzagate
hillary created isis
obama's b.c. is fake
hillary lead the benghazi attack then teleported home to ingnore emailkona - when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth********
- utopian1
- wow! even faux hates drumpt.teh
- This guy better talk up CNN, he'said about to start working there soon!robotron3k
- wow.********
- robo hates him because he's gaymoldero
- typical right wingermoldero
- Bennn6
The next 4 years gonna be painful
- Bennn6
Russia must be laughing so hard at the moment... They're destabilizing the USA politics Like No One™
- but that is incorrect. its partisanship of the US people and there inability to decipher news from entertainment, truth from fiction, relevance from irrelevance********
- ^ that's a given, but Russia played the US like a toy. Worse, we have a egomaniac continuing to deny anything, basically pumping up that toy Russia created.formed
- Your tinfoil hat is slipping, please adjust for optimal reception.robotron3k
- look around europe, especially what happened in the past 6-8 years.sted
- hes an egomaniac who feeds on emotional drivel. and best to shelve the whole russia narrative. taken rounds and rounds of pressure to finess the tune with no********
- certianity that there is direct links accept possible russian IPs with possible connections that had a successful phish. not to mention most media said the info********
- was rubbish, in comparison to the measures the US goes to in elections abroad. and rightfully should be happy hilary didnt get elected sicne she hated him and********
- what we did to gaddafi or how we have our buddies manipulate oil, involvement in ukraine, our missile defense system. we are kind of dicks********
- and even if he is a dick, he is probably right to be concerned********
- sigh... idk why we cant live with less drama, why ppl make it so much tougher than it needs to be********
- but that is incorrect. its partisanship of the US people and there inability to decipher news from entertainment, truth from fiction, relevance from irrelevance
- whatthefunk2
- Tucker Carlson's "baffled" expression is hilarious.********
- Lulz @ Tucker still talking about Hillary.********
- Read youtube comments and you'd think we hadn't spent decades under Murdoch's right wing thumb in the media. Oh those poor Trump supporters and liberal media!inteliboy
- It's like being in an episode of Black Mirror... the media, shock jocks, 1%, the powerful... they've been dominating from the conservative right for decades...inteliboy
- Yet trump supporters rant on about the left somehow being the all evil power that is ruining their lives. Yeah ok.inteliboy
- ^ yes exactly. It's a fucking joke. The media has been right biased for decades (in UK at least).fadein11
- tucker's interviews are quite entertaining to watchGnash
- Tucker Carlson's "baffled" expression is hilarious.
- ********2
This is unbelievable. Listen to this fucking ass.
- oh timeline. Can't keep up with this thread anymore********
- he has zero grace. zero. sad!inteliboy
- lol, you wouldn't know Grace even if she sat her fat hairy ass on your face and kept on grinding while screaming "I'm with her, I'm with her"GeorgesII
- lolllinteliboy
- Sorry all you Hillary boys, Trump kicked ass and the reporter sounded like a douche, "you're attacking our news organization" acting like a victim. Pfftrobotron3k
- Im in agreement with robo.mugwart
- lol, georges. although I've never imagined Grace with a fat and hairy ass. can't unsee.Gnash
- LOL @ GeorgesII********
- +1 robo...********
- It's scary some of you guys are cheering this on, he comes across as a wannabe fascist shutting down the media.yuekit
- oh timeline. Can't keep up with this thread anymore
- GeorgesII-5
but but buzzfeed and cnn told me it was true,
this can't be happening, I can't even...DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
WASHINGTON, DC 20511January 11, 2017
DNI Clapper Statement on Conversation with President-elect Trump
This evening, I had the opportunity to speak with President-elect Donald Trump to discuss recent media reports about our briefing last Friday. I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security.
We also discussed the private security company document, which was widely circulated in recent months among the media, members of Congress and Congressional staff even before the IC became aware of it. I emphasized that this document is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from within the IC. The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions. However, part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security.
President-elect Trump again affirmed his appreciation for all the men and women serving in the Intelligence Community, and I assured him that the IC stands ready to serve his Administration and the American people.
James R. Clapper, Director of National Intelligence
- forgot link
https://www.dni.gov/…GeorgesII - lol...CNN and Buzzfeed very specifically said they are just allegations.yuekit
- https://www.buzzfeed…yuekit
- ^ Notice how many times they mention the rumors are unproven. There's really no difference between this and the statement you posted.yuekit
- not saying any of the allegations were true, but what makes you think our government only tells the truth?scarabin
- just waiting for the small "possibly not true" tags near "sponsored content" tags********
- Boy the left screwed things up royally. Now most all news will be deemed fake.robotron3k
- buzzfeed didn't say it was true thoughmonospaced
- uh, it was a Trump marketing campaign agenda to proclaim "fake". Just look at what he did to the CNN reporter. This man is dangerous, but worse are thoseformed
- that continue to blindly support himformed
- I'm confused, if it wasn't true why did they post it?OP31
- HA HA HA HA********
- @OP31 good question ... it should have been ignored until it was a story to report, which it isn'tmonospaced
- http://www.washingto…********
- Would you rather not know what the intelligence community is saying about Trump? I think they made the right call in reporting.yuekit
- it's not going to matter in a few weeks. they're going to have to keep their traps shut then. DUN DUN DUN DUN ! ! !********
- @yuekit, just because it was in the report doesn't it mean it was reported in the "intelligence community" as actual intelligence. In fact, it wasn't.monospaced
- The information is supposedly coming from informants in Russian government. And was collected by a British intelligence officer who worked in Russia for years.yuekit
- So I guess that's why they considered it serious enough to include in the official report, even though no one knows if all (or any) of the allegations are trueyuekit
- the fact that it was considered important enough to be presented to both president and president elect was why it was reported. And I wouldn't dismiss all thefadein11
- claims so easily either - the guy who put it together has serious credibility and a lot of high ranking officials are supporting the claims. As for #pissagatefadein11
- that's not the main issue at hand is it.fadein11
- forgot link
- chukkaphob2
- We still have 8 days left for Obama fuckup things up...robotron3k
- What senior position in cabinet is she getting?fadein11
- lol at another complete joke fail by robotronmonospaced
- idiot trump supportersmoldero
- @robotron3k, how many more pardons you think?********
- @moldero, that might be an excited former Democrat, that's who got him elected.********
- Why is it that nearly every trump supporter is over 60 and has on average, 3 chins? I dont think ive even met a trump supporter under 50.CygnusZero4
- wut cyg sedmoldero
- Watch as robo flies off into a confuse tornado after Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence.face_melter
- CygnusZero40
Funny that he calls it fake news, yet he and the current president were briefed on it by intelligence agencies, this coming from a guy who called on the NATIONAL ENQUIRER to look into Ted Cruz's father being the JFK assassin!!! Lmao unreal. Its fake news if he doesnt like it, real news if he does. How convenient.
Even Fox News turned on trump yesterday about this. Classic.
- BonSeff0
Carson time!
http://time.com/4632725/ben-cars…- is Trump posting him here because he's "conservative" and black?********
- no, it's because he's eminently qualified for the position :PBuddhaHat
- is Trump posting him here because he's "conservative" and black?
- Bennn1
Donald Trump is emotional, reactionary and impulsive and proud and arrogant....
Those are really bad qualities to lead a country like the USA.
He has a really high potential of creating major fuckups internationally.
If I was an American, I'd be very ashamed of my country today. Like, this is the best our great Nation have to offer? We're 350,000,000 people and he's the one that managed to get the highest position of this country? Fuck everything seriously!
- Those traits make him a perfect fit for America. If anything, he's over qualified.monoboy
- ^Really?teh
- half the country doesn't vote and the other half were pissed at Obama and the Democrats taking them for granted. A recipe for Trump presidency. It happened.********
- Oh and the fucking retarded pollsters in their pompous fucking prediction models. uhmmmmmm yeah fuck off********
- I am one, and I'm deeply ashamed that we're so stupid. It'd be a better country if people paid attention when it wasn't an election year...allthethings
- not you, the pollsters. :D********
- ...and of course if the right hadn't gone off the rails. When I was young both parties had fringe and center, and compromise was possible...allthethings
- Now the Dems are center, no left; Reps are far right and hardly any center. We argue about whether it's better to be horrific or merely appalling.allthethings
- And now our politics are both, clearly. The right hates intellectuals, demonizes (us)...but we'd choose someone smart over someone psychotic, no matter the...allthethings
- ...party. The right will accept a lunatic if he promises to cut taxes for the super-rich. And they know no one is paying attention.allthethings
- ^ nahhhhh it was the rust belt (places where Republicans haven't won in eons) that brought in President Trump. Classic GOP hates him.********
- but you're damn right about most Dems being center-left. It's all about their pockets bro.********
- it's hard for me to even attach "my country" to what's going on because i've never even met a trump supporterscarabin
- to me it's just some surreal, ridiculous drama unfolding that i have no power overscarabin
- so shame? no. confusion? bewilderment? despair? yes.scarabin
- i hear you scarabin, i guess thats how i'd feel too if i were AmericanBennn
- monoboy3
It becomes clearer.
The MI6 agent in question is the same one that cracked the Litvinenko polonium poisoning case and the FIFA corruption case. Hence the highly 'credible source' quoted in the press.
He passed this unverified intelligence on to the UK ambassador in Moscow who in turn gave it to John McCain. He then gave it to the FBI. It would have been passed around various staffers until it was leaked. Probably because it's funny and they all hate Trump.
Apparently, the 'golden' rule of espionage is you don't let folk 'see the strings' being pulled so somebody has crossed a line. Especially as the report was unverified.
So, a respected UK spy gets trashed. The FBI look like amateurs and the Russians are furious because it exposes what actually goes on in the world of international relations to an otherwise unaware public.
Trump holds a ludicrous press conference, the liberal left get accused of spreading fake news by Trumpers that spread the shite Breitbart and Live-leaks spew out.
So that's that sorted.
Oddly, it might actually turn out to be true. Which would be genuinely funny if a video gets out.
- Side thought. Given Buzzfeed and CNN were explicit that these were just allegations, do you think he overreacted? Or was his response measured?monoboy
- It definitely struck a nerve if you read his Tweets which makes me think he has either something to hide or lacks the ability to judge and handle a situation.monoboy
- literally, all of this. it's spot on.
and, i think it's both. he has something to hide while lacking the ability to judge and handle a situationkona - It's a worry.monoboy
- i noticed how in the past when something 'untrue' was said his immediate response was always 'i'm going to sue' here... he overreacts, is generous to givekona
- details, overshares details, used convoluted sentence structure and qualifying language, used negative tones and stalled.kona
- Yup, it properly rattled him. I wonder why...monoboy
- He's high on a feeling... da da da da da daaaaaaaaaa********
- +1fadein11
- ********-5
Anyone like this guy?
- https://youtu.be/Q5U…monoboy
- Molyneux knows how to talk like he knows what he's talking about—despite very, very little academic research. He cites this and cites that, and presents it askona
- the whole truth. It dismantles people's sense of self and replaces it with his sense of confidence about how to fix the world.kona
- Are you not feeling your omg handle today?kona
- Why do we have this revolving door of right wing trolls? People can't troll from the same account? :)yuekit
- WTF? whoa********
- Is this plausible? A designer finds/hears of QBN which is still I would say a design forum. They are interested from the first page and figure they'll sign upkona
- only to post entirely in the Politics thread with the exact same thought process and convictions as the main Trump supporter(s). It highly unlikely.kona
- Furthermore, his tone, tactics, and demeanor are the same as an old time regular who frequented only the politics thread.kona
- It's so painfully obvious it's embarrassing.kona
- you referring to me mate? uh, please do me a favor and check many other threads I've commented on here. wow, if so.********
- Yes Carter. I'm speaking to you.
http://careers.hanov…
Unless you're just trolling and grabbed his profile image.kona - I know, I know... "but Kona your profile image is a cat wearing a lime" (hilarious btw) but I throw myself out there with my portfolio and what not.kona
- you are kind of ignorant. who the hell are you to tell me anything?********
- maybe somebody else does actually like Molyneux. These are strange days.Fax_Benson
- stumbled across that dude, has some interesting insights. I don't agree with all of his stuff********
- ^^ haha, nice one kona!BuddhaHat
- Fake news!yuekit
- @kona. * burp! *********
- lowimpakt0
Marine Le Pen leader of the french far right, supporter of Putin and possible future president is in Trump Tower
- The fucking state of that interior. Every one of his venues looks like the inside of a travellers caravan.monoboy
- service station chicFax_Benson
- ohhhh you know it, here comes the Populist network down our throats. She's leading BTW https://www.lifezett…********
- Trump "I got a GREAT deal on some fantastic marble. Marble everything..."
The interior designer to themself "Yeah because it's shit."kona - the ones who have to pay back the loans what they got from rassa?sted
- Wait... does that really fucking say "Trump's Ice Cream Parlor?"mg33
- mg ahaha frist shit i checked: http://www.trumptowe…sted
- Good grief. A "parlor." A fucking parlor.mg33
- Fax_Benson4
Journalism (mainly left of centre) is to blame for much of this mess. Or at least proper journalism's failure to find new ways to fund itself. Investigative journalism takes time and money. Traditional media has become unable or unwilling to pay for it - it's increasingly too much of an expensive gamble.
Comment is cheap and has an immediate return. Opinion pieces are replacing real investigative work and journalists are producing more of them, and getting paid more for them. Devaluing the medium has levelled the playing field to such an extent that pro journalists are operating in the same space as 4chan trolls and pre-pubescent bloggers. And losing.
Trump can shout FAKE NEWS in the knowledge that lots of it is - at best opinion or regurgitation, and even if it isn't, there's so much of it swilling around, it's too much effort to prove otherwise.
Journalists sit on twitter all day, desperate not to miss the next story - and to have a reaction piece online before it's forgotten for the next.
- < https://en.wikipedia…********
- Clickbait.monoboy
- clickpimps unite!sted
- if there's no money in it, other factors become the driver - like having a massive agenda.Fax_Benson
- Even if the funding for investigative journalism was doubled, I think people would still be drawn to sensationalist news that tells them what they want to hear.yuekit
- they always have been. 'Real' journalism thought it needed to compete with thatFax_Benson
- well said, faxPonyBoy
- These are issues every company, product or industry faces at some point in developing or reflecting on changes in their market.********
- "mainly left of centre" comment renders your observation as explicitly biased, this is the core of the issue as journalists do the same...whatthefunk
- A huge amount of the opinion piece glut is left of centre outrage in reaction to trump tweets etc. It's filling the space where analysis should be.Fax_Benson
- < https://en.wikipedia…
