work for microsoft?
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- Llyod
how much money/salary would it take for you to work for microsoft and live in seattle?
- Point50
that's a great question. Don't you hate Seattle anyway... I'm assuming it would have to be a good deal of money for you to move out of Alabama
- Llyod0
for me the number is $115 million
- also seattle sucksLlyod
- also you suckNONEIS
- HAHA.akrokdesign
- NONEIS0
Alabama is king of what again?
- texarkana?Llyod
- HahaNONEIS
- http://www.youtube.c…bulletfactory
- Brilliant :DNONEIS
- Lynching********
- NONEIS0
The thing about this decision, is that technically M$ is made up of a few different companies now, right? I would consider working for the XBOX team as cliche as that may come off, maybe UI design for multi-touch, but nothing else.
- Meaning, it's not about the $ if you can get a job there...NONEIS
- Seanbot0
I think it would be one of those experiences where you might be able to network with some cool people, add it to your resumé w/ the chance of doing some interesting work every so often.
That said, 90k to 105k for a senior designer.
- ninjasavant0
we have ms employees in our midst . . .
- acescence0
yay, get middle-managed to death. i've contracted for them (not design related) and it ain't pretty.
- jfletcher0
I'm an MS employee :)
Ask your questions....
- ********0
market value
- acescence0
i met some software engineers in the core os division, and they were all referred to by numbers rather than names. do you have a number?
- jfletcher0
For me, I enjoy MS as a designer. I I’ll be clear it's certainly not for all designers. I do interaction design for MS, and currently am a Design Lead/Manager.
It's certainly not an easy environment and you have to fight and debate a lot with people who don't know design. However it makes you a shit load stronger as a designer. You learn to articulate your arguments and explain the story of your solutions, not just dump a solution and expect people to buy it. People who have left MS have started up offices for Frog and IDEO amongst other things... not too shabby.
For an interaction designer, there aren't a ton of companies you can work for that have the difficult problems that MS has. When you have to cover 90% of the computer market issues with you design solutions it’s not easy... to design for millions and millions of people. There also aren’t many companies with the reach of Microsoft. I know my work is seen by millions of people each day.
I know it doesn’t look like MS is the best company for a designer, but it’s changing. Xbox is doing great work. Zune is coming along, some of the things in Research are amazing. Office and Windows are getting better. A long way to go, but moving...
- I'm sure it's better than being a designer at Apple (Jobs and Ive are the word of god)ismith
- designers at apple have more pressure, people are expecting work going to be amazing..Meeklo
- One of the guys I work with came from Apple. Both companies have the good and bad.jfletcher
- you're the man jfletcher! as a developer who uses MS technology, i would consider working there an honor..bliznutty
- you mention Office and Windows, but do you have an office with a window?Point5
- I don't. I actualy have a shared space I work with my team in.jfletcher
- but the general perception is that microsoft is not good on the design area, so a lot of good chances to shock peopleMeeklo
- jfletcher0
I don't have a number, no :)
- Meeklo0
jfletcher:
tell me you use a mac for design work...
- Seanbot0
^I'm sure some people do.
- jfletcher0
Meelko - I have an Powerbook and run Vista on it. However I do have bootcamp set up, but rarely go to the Mac side.
- Meeklo0
while most stuff from MS is not famous for looking good..
I have to say that MS has beat apple with Media Center (vs whateter is called for mac)
- jfletcher0
My current team is very small, which I love. I work on Microsoft Surface, so the new technology aspects are also a ton of fun, but really difficult as well. Depending on where you work in MS you're life can be very different. Each division is sort of like it's own company in way.
btw - if anyone is interesed, I'm hiring :)