Election night
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- ********0
I understand your point, TheBlueOne, but trying living in the UK and growing up poor, but then getting a great education, trying to run a business and earn a living but constantly being wedged in between the hopeless violent drinking classes and the elitist upper-middle classes who are the only ones with any access to capital or a decent chance of owning a house, THEN decide 'fuck this' and fuck off somewhere where despite there being huge problems, there is still a hope in hells chance of making something in a country where hard work and talent are celebrated, and where, of the people that actually know or care anything about the place, there is still brazen hope and a willingness to do something about it. [sips water].
For better or worse, the fate of everyone in the world from the sheik on a gold camel, to a Ghanaian orphan rests with the US and if you're here and you have a chance to make it a better place then you're kind of obliged, given your tremendously privileged place in history to make a go of it, rather than jump ship. Stick it out my friend - at least giving a shit will help in some way.- well putDUKIE0822
- lol @ "sips water"Jaline
- I know a bunch of Canadian musicians who moved to the U.S.A. and then promptly moved back after Bush was elected.Jaline
- elected.Jaline
- Look I hear you, but America eats its own. It's a beast, a motherfucker.TheBlueOne
- mg330
I'll be honest, I don't know the answer - but why is Ohio so important in the primaries?
Hillary just noted that no candidate who lost Ohio has made it to the White House.
Clever tricks, or is there really something important about Ohio that I'm missing?
- It's the Cows... they DO things to you here.rainman
- Racist, backwater state with hollowed out industry and huge electoral count. Bush won there twice.TheBlueOne
- mg330
And I'm still very confused by Hillary using the "who do you want to answer the phone at 3am in the White House?" bit as it relates to experience and capability to be president.
She has never been president, but certainly likes to talk like she has been president, as if First Lady has put her in that position to answer the phone in the middle of the night and solve gigantic problems.
- ukit0
Well that fucking sucked
- ********0
Honestly I don't know anyone at all who likes Hillary - If theres someone on here who does, I ask in a genuine spirit of enquiry - why ?
Or is this site's demographic so overlapped with Obamas that noone reading this will be a Billaric ?Come on, we all know it's a font thing...Hoefler's Gotham is just the epitome of post post 911 clarity and change 2.0. God I love it. In all it's weights..
- ukit0
Well Obama supporters tend to be upper middle class college-educated male young professionals under 50. There you go, I've just described everyone on this site besides Jaline, and she's a Clinton supporter JK
- colin_s0
in 2004 i thought, "well, at least things can't get any worse."
then bush got re-elected.now it's 2008 and i'm thinking, "well, at least things can't get any worse."
now it's either clinton lite or bush lite. sort of like choosing between a kick in the nuts and a kick in the throat.
- ukit0
Actually Obama is so far ahead at this point that it's almost mathematically impossible for Clinton to win. But the bad thing about her winning Texas and Ohio tonight is that she will go on anyway, even if it fucks up the chances for the Dems to win in November. In a way, I bet she'd rather have McCain win than Obama, because that way she can run in 2012.
- The reason why she can go on is because he's not actually SO FAR ahead... unfortunately.jellyneck
- ismith0
The US needs more socialists, fascists, and anarchists in the mainstream. Not because any of them have particularly good ideas (although I am on the brink of being an anarchist myself), but so that the rest of the US can see outside of this fucking Repub/Democrat bubble. At the moment though, I'm rooting for Obama. It's too bad he couldn't do better today, it's just going to make the next few weeks hell for democrats.
- We have them man, they just don't factor into the system.TheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
If the superdelegates don't jump to Obama this week, expect a long drawn out, damaging primary season and a clusterfuck of a convention. The democratic party is the most useless party on the face of the fuckingplanet. They always find a way to lose. Already the Republican dickwads are pulling out the long knives - LImbuagh and Coulter rooting for Clinton, all the TV show airheads talking about what a "maverick" and "straight shooter" McCain is. Karl Rove'S mouth is watering at the thought of a Clinton candidacy. Fuck I'm not even sure I could vote for Hillary in the general. I'd probably stay home.
President McCain. Get used to it. It'll be like Bush but with Alzheimers and more pasty whiteness.
- TheBlueOne0
Sorry, I'm in a pissy mood. Truth is the delegate count probably stays roughly the same, still leaving Clinton with a mathmatical improbablity of winning enough delegates for an outright win. It just means the media narrative changes that will damage the Democratic candidate from here on out. All the talking heads will be Clinton's comeback this, Obama's tarnished goods that, and Hey! Where's Bill? And What a great guy that McCain is, oh boy, yessir! And then it'll come to the convention and it will be ugly...
- Raniator0
- Must be the Ohio point of view, eh? Not fat or white enough and no taste for Denny's...TheBlueOne
