US 2008 pres candidates
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- mrdobolina0
Tax cuts definitely aren't going to fix Medicare or Social Security though. Odd when the democrat was more conservative than the republican on this issue though.
- ********0
yeah, i lean towards Rupaul as well.
I can almost touch his/her fanny now..
*leans a bit further
- BonSeff0
it is interesting that paul has admitted that he cannot cite a law that requires citizens to pay federal income tax. he cites the reason that the supreme court ruled that income from a job is personal property and cant be taxes. he said the 16th ammendment is does not define income as such. the supreme courts have defined income as profits made from corporate gains. plus he wants to get rid of the irs. this shit is very interesting.
- ********0
how about Ru Paul?
Daro
(May 22 07, 10:41)meh.. :(
- mrdobolina0
how do we pay this deficit without taxes, though?
- BonSeff0
well, ideally it would have been through interest on our gold. but since the federal reserve is holding it collateral for the money it prints out of thin air, i dont see how we pay it back without a income tax. the federal reserve is private btw, holding our gold collateral. that is fucking scary. i am really interested to see what paul's plan is. i saw in that documentary freedom to fascism that our fed income tax is almost = defense spending. basically that is what it is used for...
many have asked how we expect to get along without the tax.
people argue that we went 1776-1913 with out it.
- mrdobolina0
We didn't have military bases all over the globe then, I would guess.
- mrdobolina0
Plus, people just straight up starved to death then too, no safety net at all. Kinda third-worldish.
- BonSeff0
congress pushed the tax through while half were out on holiday. it was a bill dreamed up by big bankers to create the federal reserve bank. congress handed over the usa's power to controll its own economy to a private bank.
- BonSeff0
people starved to death everywhere back then
- mrdobolina0
yeah, but I dont think we can go back to that.
something about libertarians are kinda scary.
- ********0
I would rather take a Libertarian over a Neo-Con any day.
- mrdobolina0
no doubt, but before this administration, libertarians were about as far right as you could get. before the huge religious push by republicans.
- BonSeff0
true, but i think 4 years of founding fathers style conservatism wouldnt be such a bad thing. to me it seems like a take a step back and regroup the central american ideology. he doesnt seem that far off base to me.
like i said earlier, the dems have had 7 years to get a concrete position in order. and they are all pandering. not feeling too confident about that.
- mrdobolina0
I'd love to see Bernie Sanders in some dem debates.
- ********0
any candidate will do. i can not imagine anyone could ever be worse then bush.
what a relief. no tension for me.
- mrdobolina0
giuliani would be as bad as bush.
- ********0
not so sure. at least he got like 1 more braincell no?
- ********0
maybe not.
- mrdobolina0
He is like Bush-lite. I just see him as the most blatantly power-hungry guy on the right this time out.