are djs artists?
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- ********0
they are just glorified jukeboxes
RoomFive
(Mar 20 07, 02:11)*laughing out loud.
- kelpie0
if they are very good (and yes I mean the ones "fade in and out into someones elses music"), then there is an artistry in what they do. I'd stop short of calling the majority of them artists, but someone like Yoda could be said to be.
I find those ones the most tedious though.
go and dance for 6 hours to a shit DJ, then go next week to a good one - the difference is huge.
(most of them are wankers though, that's for sure - and anyway why aren't we having this conversation 10 years ago?)
- _me_0
well, imo, certain djs can be totally classified as artists, but they have to be ones that " broke the mould " from the Belleville3 to the purveyors of UK Acid house, to US hiphop DJs that made a 1210 a musical instument these guys were truly artists in that they took a medium and crafted it into something unique... 18yr old kids who play records in clubs to pay for their drug habit are not artists, they are " DrugJukeboxes"
- _me_0
hahaha, roomfive :)
- ********0
I AM NOT TALKING CLUB DEEJAYS!
CLUB DEEJAYS ONLY WANT TO GET LAID!
COMPARING A CLUB DEEJAY TO A REAL DEEJAY IS LIKE COMPARING BRITNEY SPEARS TO JANIS JOPLIN
THANK YOU!NOW Y'ALL MADE ME ANGRY AGAIN
which means i am about to leave NT forever
to never return again
well not for 2 months anyway
- kelpie0
^^^ yup
but I reckon me and _me_ are the type of guys who tell 20 year old clubbers how much better it was 10 years ago and how they've really missed the boat at their age ;D
- ********0
i think the term "artist" is glorified aswell.
- _me_0
thats a big 10-4 to Kelpie!
- ********0
but getting laid is an artform.
- ********0
is this trucker slang again?
- ********0
lorry linguistics
- kelpie0
(aye that post was meant for _me_ a few posts up in the thread - right on my cantankerous old skool friend ;D )
janne - what type of DJs do you mean then? hip-hop I take it?
there's more going on in a proper club set than most people who aren't really into it realise I think.
- _me_0
is this trucker slang again?
Crouwel
(Mar 20 07, 02:22)Arizona, noon on the 10th o' June, Bulldog Mack with a can on the back and the Jaguar hallin ass!
When DJ Rolando played that before dropping "Jaguar" I was in absolute awe. Just as i was when i saw Dalis " Persistence of Memory" or Michaelangelos David, or the Sistine chapel, OK i hadn't dropped 7pills when i was looking at them, but faaaaaarrrrkkkk!
is any of it art?
- kelpie0
lol
- ********0
Once at a place called Townhouse in Leeds, I saw this tool of a guy acting it up like he was doing something amazing on the 'decks'... but something didn't seem right, so I snuck round the side to see what he was doing...
...and the IDIOT had his flaming i-pod plugged into the damn thing, there weren't even any records on the decks!!!
- ********0
well if you make art depend from public opinion then even my dirty laundry is interesting and meaningful and pollocking.
- ********0
no kelpie, not hiphop. i fucking hate hiphop. it is dead.
but what DJ Shadow did in the earlier days right before he wasnhanded the knife from 50 Cents and stabbed HipHop in the face himself, that had its artistic merits.
- ********0
"was handed"
- ItTango0
There is an "art" to everything, though not everyone reaches that point. Some people are great cooks and a handful are true culinary artists.
I agree with the earlier "collage" reference. Jacob Lawrence and others begin their work with source material gleaned elsewhere, and strived to make something completely new. This new thing was strong enough to stand on its own, without references to the ingredients. There are DJs (a few) who have crossed that line and I would call them artists.
- ********0
the real question is: are they designers?