Times Person Of The Year
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- ********
IT IS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Nairn0
I was just this second reading that myself.
Quite a cop out, I think - just goes to show what a world of shit we're in if the notable candidate is a retarded 14 year old in Milwaukee posting video online of his brother masturbating.
Remember - this is but 2 years after they voted GWB and only a year after the voted for 3 'persons' - The gates' and fucking Bono.
I bloody hate Time mag - was brought up on it and loved it as a kid, but grew to see it solely as the mouthpiece of the America Media & Political Corporation.
Sad.
- ********0
"Some of the comments on YouTube make you weep for the future of humanity just for the spelling alone, never mind the obscenity and the naked hatred".
ahah.
- Nairn0
http://www.time.com/time/persono…
'Ha'. Georgie's been 'Person of the Year' twice this millennium already, once it was his army.
Brings to mind the quote from 1984, for some reason - 'If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — for ever'.
I don't know why.
- ********0
Quite a cop out...
Nairn
(Dec 17 06, 06:39)That's the first thing that came to my head as well after I cliked the link.
What's next, 'Sportsman of the Year', from Sports Illustrated being awarded to Armchair Quarterbacks?
- ********0
it seems you may be missing the point. it is about shaping a new world, a virtual one, that has a great impact on the daily experiences and opinions of people in the world.
youtube, flickr, myspace and all those other web 2 communities have had a huge impact and while they have been initiated by companies or individual entrepreneurs, it is the people that build the communities.
the influence of the individual initiative has probably never been as big in history as it is now.
- ********0
it seems you may be missing the point. it is about shaping a new world, a virtual one, that has a great impact on the daily experiences and opinions of people in the world.
youtube, flickr, myspace and all those other web 2 communities have had a huge impact and while they have been initiated by companies or individual entrepreneurs, it is the people that build the communities.
the influence of the individual initiative has probably never been as big in history as it is now.
- ********0
apologies.
- Nairn0
The point's a pretty obvious one, Crouwel, and it's still a cop out.
- ********0
it seems like a cop out, but the arguments used are very valid, so it may be a surprise, but not a cop out.
- ********0
If I was an individual who actually contributed/s a lot to soceity, I'd be fucking pissed.
I thought last year was kind of suspect when they mushed Bono/Gates' together.
The whole point of this award is to recognise the individual, not the group.
It'd be like your department at work all getting a VIP award or something ... yea your kind of happy ... but you know a lot of people didn't do shit to deserve anything.
Also, there are a lot more fucking important things out there than computers.
In the grand scheme of things, "youtube, flickr, myspace and all those other web", are going to hurt society more than help them anyway.
- ********0
In the grand scheme of things, "youtube, flickr, myspace and all those other web", are going to hurt society more than help them anyway.
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what are your grounds for such a statement?
- Nairn0
I dunno - it's an oh-so clever nomination from the leftfield, no doubt - but trite and well plied all the same - I'm sure they've considered the same theme alongside every technological progression, from Supermarkets ('YOU, the customer is King!') to Television ('YOU, empowered by YOUR own entertainment!') to Telephones ('talk to who YOU want - anywhere!') to the barebones, pre-web2.0 internet ('YOU click YOU click! YOU click!').
Essentially, this is merely an extension of the Consumer Power tradition that Time et al wholeheartedly endorse and, personally, I'd rather they stayed true to the core sentiment and actually nominated someone, ie a person, we can all aspire to / loathe - or at the very least, associate with.
Besides, I'm not really sure what all these web2.0 apps actually ADD to society.
Or, perhaps, I'm just bitter towards AOLTimeWarner.
or, perhaps I'm just pissed because I've got nothing to do this Christmas and feel like aimlessly venting on NT.
- ********0
The people who use them.
- ********0
it is not even about consuming anymore, it is about extending social networks, refining them, creation, setting up business online etc.
look at secondlife for instance, it's a small economy all by itself, empowered by those who engage within.
any community based site can only measure its success by popularity, e.g. the decision of the participant on whether it is a solid basis for their intentions to network.
like i said, the power of the individual is incredible.
- Nairn0
Meh, let's agree to disagree - my feeling is that that mechanic has been existant for 20 years now, unreported by the MassiveCorp - but now there's an economy to it - advertising revenue to be had, somehow it's more worthwhile to report.
It's less about Us than Them.
and, something to make you think (well, it did me, a little)
http://www.celsias.com/blog/2006…
- Nairn0
er.. maybe not '20 years'.
Maybe - since all those folks in San Fancisco started getting all hot about modemd and shit in hte early 90s.
- ********0
i think figures will point out that community-based networking has been skyrocketing the past year(s), since the rise of the frameworks that provide a basis for all this.
bear in mind, it is not just youtube, myspace etc., on national levels there are countless communities that attract millions. in the netherlands for instance there's something called Hyves which also had a huge expansion in the past year or maybe past 2 years.
- Jaline0
Even if it is a cop out, I'd rather see normal people on there compared to some celebrity like Angelina Jolie. Plus, as janne said, many of their points are valid.
- Nairn0
there's something called Hyves which also had a huge expansion in the past year or maybe past 2 years.
Crouwel
(Dec 17 06, 08:50)I think there's a topical cream for that, available from most high street pharmacies?
- ********0
Maybe - since all those folks in San Fancisco started getting all hot about modemd and shit in hte early 90s.
Nairn
(Dec 17 06, 08:50)there was no you back then, there was only them, "those that know", the incrowd, or elite..
now even a lot of the senior people in western nations are using internet more and more, same goes for other groups that were hardly represented 10 years ago.
The internet has become so much more accessible to so many people nowadays.