dj shadow- the outsider
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- neue75_bold0
well I haven't read all the replies in this thread nor have I bothered to listen to the new album yet, the .zip file is just sitting on my desktop, unopened...
I was fairly put off at first when I heard the Funky Skunk mix that came with the Obey box set, but after a few listens it grew on me, but I've always had a fascination with the whole crunk thing so that didn't bother me at all. I felt the mix dragged on though and feels a lot longer than what it actually is, which I don't think is ever a good thing...
I passed up The Hyphy Movement feat. DJ Shadow show in A'dam a month or so ago...mostly due to lack of funds..
I don't think I expect to hear anything like Entroducing or even The Private Press from him again. Even the classic material he produced for Hollywood Basic/Organised Konfusion etc, and the first Blackalicious album are still some of my favorite production of all time. But it belongs to that time period and I think RJD2 sorta picked up that vibe and actually progressed it to where Shadow probably wasn't inspired himself to bring it...
Say what you will about the new material, but ultimately Shadow did a lot for progressing both hip hop and downtempo cultures/scenes. He's curated projects with Steinski and Cut Chemist, pretty much single-handedly reinvigorated the whole sample-based music scene and has brought so much more interest to a new generation that would have probably never found any the original music he's sampled otherwise, which would be a shame, since so many of those old soul, jazz and funk records really shaped hip hop...
He's opened the door for guys like RJD2 and DJ Krush and brought more interest to labels like Mo Wax and Ninja Tune...
I have a lot of respect for what he HAS done and will keep listening to it for a long time to come, so for me I'm not even bothered if his new music is rubbish..
I've seen him live 3 times over the past 10 years, from DJ'ing with Latyrx to reproducing entroducing and pre-emptive strike material live on 4 turntables and a DAT... I've never been disappointed, and I reckon I'm gonna leave it that way...
- digdre0
I see him this week live at www.pukkelpop.be
- quamb0
form - same deal in melbourne. a bottle was thrown at the guy who came out and sung. true aussie style. how proud we were.
- Form_0
I saw Shadow in Sydney a few weeks back and have been a massive fan forever. He was awesome - but when he played tracks off the outsider, the crowd stood still. It's a pretty sad day.
I think there will be two types of Shadow fans from now on, the ones who get it, and the ones who like this new album.
- sparko0
Hatetoday®
- THA0
wow, this is TRASH.
- fooler0
i didn't even really like private press...introducing and the shit he did with cut chem. was his best shit.
- Crouwel0
It's funny because 99% of Underground heads hated
"Endtroducing" when it hit.
Then they loved him when "Preemptive Strike" came out.
Remember he came from that whole "Soulsides" era, The man in my opinion is just ahead of everyone. Tell me his "Public Works" mix wasn't the shiite!
It was Crunk and Classic.>()
JAO
(Aug 12 06, 10:36)AHEAD?
ffs, why is everyone here so deeply rooted in the idea of timeline based trendwaves? ffs, i have never liked this sort of sound and never will, not tomorrow, not next year, not ever..
i don't care what dj shadow does, even if it was composing the score for a sequel to Sound of Music.
it's jsut too bad and i hope that soon another artist will arise that will surprise me with an album like Endtroducing.
As i had never heard of him before that (oooh how uncool of me .. point fingers at me now and steal my fucking emo lunchbox), this was an album that made me keep an eye on this artist since Endtroducing still moves me, such depth and display of dedication.
this music doesn't give me that feel at all.
- Crouwel0
I agree with JAO.
Everyone will always be judged by their past work and accomplishments. Dj Shadow is not what he was about 10, 5, years ago. Artist's need room to be different, piss people off, and to be an "outsider"
Much respect to Shadow.
mrpt
(Aug 12 06, 11:59)that sounds so damn teenage emo. "oooh he is doing this to be more different then different and just for the sake of being different..just to kick the media and fans in the buttocks.."
come on, in a few years time Shadow will look back at this period in shame.
and he will never mention it anymore like Peter North refuses to admit his gay past.
- Crouwel0
next year he's gonna work with DJ Tiesto.
- Crouwel0
hahahahaha dopepope!
today i dug up my endtroducing cd and listened to it while i was importing it. it's still as good as the first time i heard it. there's a reason this album has won so many awards and that some journalists even called it the best album ever..
esp. since it was the first album ever (Guinnes book mention) that was created entirely out of samples..
this new stuff.. well, good to hear he's happy with it, but i am afraid he lost me at this point.
*vomits a little inside mouth
- lvl_130
yuck. what a change from the dark days flick (i realize the entroducing album was out way before, but the movie really gave shadow a strong presence/feeling. i heard they are going to let him score the new 50cent movie 'get rich or die trying 2'
whatever, i don't like it. and shut the fuck up sparko. nice fake name douchebag
- flavorful0
Shadow's last mix was mad dirty dirty, with Banner doing voice overs.
Who didn't see this coming?
I like it.
- fowler0
I like this a lot.. a little too much diplo/hollertronix on that track, but it's still good, as well as the rest of the album.
- sparko0
I HOPE SO
- tank0
are you son?
- sparko0
this is sooooo hawt.
this is dope shit.Here some ghetto for you.
you are the uneducated musical masses.
It's about something you can't comprehend.
AMERICA IS A GHETTO
are you fucking blind or what?It's a dump from coast to coast.
Shove your deaf and blind head up your ass, lick and taste what you sound like.
YOU ARE DUMB,
But I sympathize..
NOBODY TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO.hows that for hate. losers.
you hate how I'm right
you hate how I write in all caps
you hate how I have the last laugh
you hate how I know what you'll hate about me.
I know you.
I face you every day.Todays News:
THIS IS A FLAME
I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU KNOW
BUT YOU'RE ONLY EXPERTS OF WHAT THINGS ARE NOT.
AND YOU JUDGE EVERYONE FOR WHAT THEY'VE GOTFREAK FREAK! CUT HIM OFF. WE CAN'T HAVE ANY OF THIS!!
BAN HIM! Lets not have this overwhelming difference of opinion. Everything must be one way. The way, where we win, and they lose.
This person is obviously insane! No, They're stupid. Immature! Ignorant. Arrogant, I tell you. We're not like this. We're different, something better! Look at us, how proud we are! We've earned it!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Again again!explode your fucking mind
DO ME DO ME
Go fuck yourself.
- Timson0
'DJ SHADOW ft. mc blah and mc blah' it said on the poster. i thought, great, a new album by shadow, gotta check it out. so i bought the tickets and went to the show. once there it turns out to be a 'MC BLAH and MC BLAH ft. dj shadow' show. i got very dissapointed like most of the people and in the end everybody started shouting and throwing beer at the stage untill shadow ended up playing some of his old stuff without the mc's. i felt ashamed for him. this was at AB Brussels may 2006.
- ukit0