Sheik Hassan Nasrallah
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- Republican0
and btw, i'm not with either side and i hate it that many people think that not supporting israel means supporting the terrorists.
pablito
(Jul 30 06, 06:32)Unfortunately in this case (and in these times) it does.
- Republican0
If Israel fights with too much avoidence of innocent lives they will lose this fight. The media expects Hizballah to kill innocent lives so the media doesn't really care to cover it but if Israel misses and kills innocent lives it makes the front page. Israel can't care too much about the innocent if it wishes to survive. Awfuly sad but true.
We all know this. I know people like to play the fence to display other points of view, but we all know right from wrong and we all know what Hizballah's goals are. We all also know that Hizballah is in the wrong but this fence playing debate may be entertaining from many miles away but the cost of lives by divided opinions fuels the situation in a very bad way.
Backing up Hizballah means more than you think. Hizballah is not to be taken lightly and this entire mess is not a game.
- laurus0
I never thought I would come to agree with someone who calls himself "republican".
- Republican0
I never thought I would come to agree with someone who calls himself "republican".
laurus
(Jul 30 06, 07:13)I'm not really a Republican laurus. I named myself this to prove the point that a title opposing the mass liberal opinion fetches immediate bigotry and closed mindedness. I align myself between democrats and republicans since there is very much I do not agree with on both sides.
- laurus0
it's ok, I'm not really laurus...
:) peace
BTW, if i offended anyone, I'm sorry, I tend to get heated easily with me house full of refugees. I love everybody. really.
- GreedoLives0
But is there a way out of this? Can you really destroy Hezbollah without taking Iran with it? Can anyone realistically at this time take on Iran as well? Moreover, would they want to?
This is not going to get solved in our lifetime, if ever.
- PonyBoy0
in war... people die... civilians too...
... just some facts from WWII...
92,000 American Servicemen died fighting the Japanese in the Pacific...
... 1.5 MILLION Japanese died in that campaign...
my point?
civilian or not - war is full of death... and if it eventually gets to the point where they're lobbing deadly shit at each other...
... the person who causes the most damage and death wins... that's just war.
I'm not siding here at all - I'm just saying - you guys GET TO SEE the outcome of nearly every fucking rocket!!!!
... you think in WWII if Americans/Canadians... THE WORLD were glued to their tv's and watching every fucking battle like it were a movie that 1.5 mil. japanese would have died?...
...what of the americans?
I'm simply pointing out that in war - people will die... it's what war is. Diplomacy hasn't done shit since the 60's in that neck of the world...
... everytime Israel GET'S ATTACKED... they defend themselves and then back off at the World's request.
I'm curious as to when the World is going to step in ask everyone else to leave Israel the fuck alone.
Watching all this garbage unfold sucks... especially what happened today - all that death...
... but this wouldn't even be an issue if them ak47-yellow flags weren't in Lebanon...
blame the hezbollah for the death of all those children and innocent ones - it wouldn't have occured if they'd just leave Israel the fuck alone.
- 3RR0R_4040
Both sides have a completely differant perspective... but here are a few facts that are driving this whole mess...
Israel, 60 years ago, took over the land of Palestine.
Israel, today, is driving the Palestine crazy, landlocking time.. with complete control of their resources...
Israel would've been a failed state MANY years ago, if it didnt had the Americans backing them...
Now please tell me who would defend this idea of killing 700 people, putting the whole country 20 years behind... all for THREE soldiers... who wouldve been returned if Israel agreed to return the prisoners it has in its jails...
Hezbullah are not Terrorists, in the mind of the 5 yr old kid who just lost his whole family in Lebanon because of the Israeli bombing... Hezbullah are freedom fighters in his mind...
Any country in the middle east whos against the US and what they do around the world is a part of the axis of evil... they are terrorists...
Iran is a terrorist, because its going after being a nuclear power... and that would upset the US because the ONLY nuclear power in that region is Israel...
This war (and other US driven wars) is driving the US economy and its military-industrial complex... the US is selling weapons to Israel, but if Iran gives Hezbullah its weapons then ofcourse its a bad thing...
Oh and the shit that Hezbullah parts sheilds themselves behind civillian population and Israel "misses" a target everytime they hit the civillians, well by hard numbers given in the media.. Israel has been "missing" the target quiet a lot, dont ya think?
I hope this all ends soon, war only kills innocents HARDLY connected to the conflict at hand...
- PonyBoy0
"Israel, 60 years ago, took over the land of Palestine."
that's where I stopped reading - because you're wrong.
Israel was created by the... U.N....
... the taking of Palestine was by a multi-national committee of decision makers...
the USA backs it up... yep - what's wrong with that? Do you realize how many soldiers in the Israeli army are israeli-american? I know a few Jewish folks 'children' that are fighting over there... and they're from Scottsdale Arizona (where their parents live).
So yes - the U.S. and Israel are very tight - I'll give you that.
... but Israel didn't just 'take over' Palestine...
- PonyBoy0
"Oh and the shit that Hezbullah parts sheilds themselves behind civillian population and Israel "misses" a target everytime they hit the civillians, well by hard numbers given in the media.. Israel has been "missing" the target quiet a lot, dont ya think?"
no... they haven't
stop watching your tv you dolt.
- 3RR0R_4040
they shouldve been given some land in Germany... Hitler wrongly killed them... Not some Arab kid...
oh, but the GOD says that thats the jew's land... oh oh... im sorry.. GOD is right... it is the Jews' land... well, then kill everyone around that peice of land... because God says so.. and Bush backs you too... because his God says the same... atleast he thinks so...
- PonyBoy0
oh man... sounds like you hate Bush and God, dude...
... you should be angry w/the UN - check your facts.
- PonyBoy0
you should also be LIVID with Russia for their actions after WWII...
... the USA REPAIRED EUROPE...
... lay off the air America - go get yourself a history book... or better yet... go talk to someone who was alive and fought during the WWII period to get a true perspective of what the world was like... and how the Jews came to land in Israel.
- 3RR0R_4040
yeah i should stop watching my TV.. plug my ears, wrap my eyes, tape my mouth..
- PonyBoy0
yeah i should stop watching my TV.. plug my ears, wrap my eyes, tape my mouth..
3RR0R_404
(Jul 30 06, 12:36)... and educate yourself on why things are the way they are.
I noticed you slipped a 'Bush' in there a few posts back - shows you're a mindless lefty sheep who's on the bandwagon of blaming Bush for everything...
... too bad this shit's been going on since ol' G. dubya was a wee lil boy.
- 3RR0R_4040
Do you know what will happen with the US economy if wars around the world come to a complete end.. and there is world peace...
The USA will also be repairing Lebanon.. just like they are repairing Iraq right now...
Demooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
- 3RR0R_4040
Give me the facts man, c'mon... sure im a lefty... convince me that Israel is right... and US is right in backing them right now... c'mon...
- PonyBoy0
Do you know what will happen with the US economy if wars around the world come to a complete end.. and there is world peace...
3RR0R_404
(Jul 30 06, 12:39)you got to be in your late teens... early twenties and in college...
... this is just a guess though..
- 3RR0R_4040
you got to be in your late teens... early twenties and in college...
... this is just a guess though..
PonyBoy
(Jul 30 06, 12:41)what does my age has anything to do with this...
PonyBoy, I am not attacking you.. or your age... I am attacking an idea.. defend your idea... dont attack my age...
- PonyBoy0
"Give me the facts man, c'mon..."
gave them to you above...
... keep up that hating, pal - you'll make youre parents proud someday.
quick facts again though:
the US pulled the world's underwear OUT OF THEIR ASS FOR THEM 60 years ago in WWII (the 'underwear would be Germany and Japan)...
... and to answer you point about the Jews residing in Germany after the war..
HEY IDIOT... .DO YOU RECALL THESE LIL FUCKERS CALLED 'THE RUSSIANS' WHO COMMUNISED HALF THE FUCKING COUNTRY?