Sociopaths
- Started
- Last post
- 34 Responses
- turosatano0
I'm thinking of the movie In the Company of Men, ;) heh oy u don't realize what a sociopath the blonde guy is till the veryend of the movie.
- winter0
i didn't mean it literally. But in a broad way people are socialized into a common good sense.
- xenicon0
sinners?
dude, they are entertainers.
- winter0
Why is an asshole an asshole?
Because he doesn't know it.
Cactus
(May 30 06, 09:50)
------------------------------that's not true. people know there are things they cannot do.
i see where this is going. don't turn these people into justified sinners by turning them into ignorant of their own actions. they're not retards.
- Jaline0
House = Gregory House from 'House'
"Dr. House is seemingly lacking in bedside manner and prefers to avoid direct contact with his patients whenever possible. Due to an infarction in his right thigh, House lost a substantial portion of the muscle in his upper leg and must use a cane to assist with walking. As a result, House is also forced to deal with constant physical pain, which he manages through a dependency on the prescription pain-medication Vicodin and, more recently, morphine. Although his behavior can border on antisocial or misanthropic, House is viewed as a maverick physician whose unconventional thinking and flawless instincts have afforded him a great deal of respect and an unusual level of tolerance from his professional colleagues. He is very sarcastic and metaphorical and tries to get his staff to figure things out."
- xenicon0
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=2…
Just as Oprah created a talk-show host named "Oprah," making that character her work, improvising on it and experimenting with it, so Frey created a character named "James Frey," and improvised on it and experimented with it. He didn't need to act on the Winfreyist principle of exchangeability by feeling someone else's pain. He imagined a new persona for himself, constructed out of pain he had actually felt, and then proceeded to play his new role. After all, a person is free to do whatever he wants with his own pain. In this sense, Frey was not lying about his life. He was making his life his work, and, since work is a process of development and life is always open-ended and fragile and provisional, it can take any form you want it to take as you proceed toward your goal. Frey was doing what he had to do in order to be who he knew he really was, and who he wanted to become.
Every person and every ideology has its countertendency.
- Cactus0
Who believes in that stuff anymore besides university professors?
- Mimio0
"A Marxist or neo-Marxist view of what is a peculiar but quite common aspect of the human condition is a philosophical deadend."
Cactus, what makes you draw that conclusion?
- pluto0
So basically what you're trying to say is that everyone here is a sociopath?
- Cactus0
Who's House?
- Jaline0
Why is an asshole an asshole?
Because he doesn't know it.
Cactus
(May 30 06, 09:50)House would disagree with you.
- Cactus0
The problem with these people is that they are often unaware of what they are doing and how they appear in other's eyes.
Why is an asshole an asshole?
Because he doesn't know it.
- xenicon0
I'd smash Mark Rudd in the nose.
yawn
- garett_west0
if i may, i'd like to point out that the only real way to deal with a sociopath is a swift kick to the genitals.
- Cactus0
Let me bring it back down to a practical level, and more specically, to how some aspects of this personality trait has been commercialized.
"since at least the 1950s the prevailing ethos of capitalism has been the glorification of the rebel, the hipster, the nonconformist. Marketing organizations even that far back were encouraging a “Just Do It” mentality among consumers: Live life to the full, don’t think of the morrow, let the kid inside you flourish, be irresponsible, don’t feel guilty, purchase our product now, on credit, and enjoy, give voice to the inner you and fuck society and its conventions, stick it to The Man by buying our bike/car/T-shirt/records. Far from co-opting 1960s rebellion, Frank explains, businesses actively espoused the idea of rebellion as a lifestyle, if not before, at least at the same time as the counterculture was taking on “The Hegemon.” This glorification of the rebel without a cause has resulted in a society that doesn’t just condone sociopathic behaviour: It actively encourages it. Go look in Business Week and Forbes at the sorts of behaviour that are regarded as praiseworthy: ruthlessness, the capacity for making "hard" decisions, risk-taking. Go back and have a look at what Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling were up to, then consider how they were regarded by the business world before they got found out. And, without wanting to be accused of stating the obvious, have a look at Hare’s checklist for psychopathic behaviour and see how many of the characteristics he identifies are exhibited NOT JUST by the present incumbent of the White House, but by the previous one as well. It seems pretty clear to this reader, at least, that we as a society are colluding in self-destructive behaviour whenever we praise, ignore, fail to face down, or fail to render accountable those individuals or businesses that lay waste the planet or ruin people’s lives for the sake of a quick buck, a profit margin, a legacy, self-aggrandizement, or caprice. Guiltless excess has been the watchword of capitalism for nigh on 50 years, not just during brief periods in the 1960s or the 1980s, and at the risk of sounding like an alarmist, we need to recognize that capitalism as a whole is sociopathic and requires surgery: This is a sociopathic society."
I don't entirely agree with this argument but it is certainly a valid point.
- pluto0
This thread is over my head.
- Cactus0
A Marxist or neo-Marxist view of what is a peculiar but quite common aspect of the human condition is a philosophical deadend.
People who could be called sociopaths have been with us for thousands of years.
Anyway, I didn't want this to turn political.
- turosatano0
This describes Steve Jobs really well.
- Rand0
I am Ian Curtis
- Jaline0
You can learn all those 13 rules by watching tv.