Table VS css
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- nuarmy0
I kid you not. there are some people using ie4 and ie5 still. granted this is all internal but its still somewhat of a pain.
- imakedesign0
ie5 supports div`s
- shaft0
None of this explains why content of any box element (including body) cannot be _easily_ aligned vertically, just as it is aligned horizontally with 'text-align'.
It could with tables which is one of the big reasons people stick to them.Can someone just admit that it's because css peeps were nerds so I can go back to work and be quiet?
- nuarmy0
with a combination of margin and padding you should be albe to align things vertically.
and thanks for pointing out the obvious. its just getting the execs and IT to realize it.
- ********0
None of this explains why content of any box element (including body) cannot be _easily_ aligned vertically, just as it is aligned horizontally with 'text-align'.
It could with tables which is one of the big reasons people stick to them.Can someone just admit that it's because css peeps were nerds so I can go back to work and be quiet?
shaft
(Feb 6 06, 08:16)No.
There is nothing tables can do that CSS can't.
- radar0
so let me ask you this if your applying for a web design gig - would they frown upon you using table-based layouts? Would it be best to have a variety, like a couple table based sites, couple strict CSS sites and a couple flash based?
- jevad0
Table website are dead ?
Celine
(Feb 6 06, 05:22)No.
As much as the standard's Nazis would like it to be so...
- UndoUndo0
teh interwebs is a fad you geeks
- shaft0
No.
There is nothing tables can do that CSS can't.
determinedmoth
(Feb 6 06, 08:21)
-------------------I really want this to be true.
How do I _easily_ center text, an image or another box element of unknown height in a div 600px by 600px?
Vertical-align does just that in a table.
- jakeyj0
css has many advantages over tables
• Easier to mantain larger sites
• Easier to work on when you have a team of people working on a site
• saves bandwith because you're not sending spacer gifs and other images for layout purposes
• separates style from content
• makes it accessible for people with disabilities
• your site doesn't go to crap if someone resizes the textetc. etc. etc.
- ********0
so let me ask you this if your applying for a web design gig - would they frown upon you using table-based layouts? Would it be best to have a variety, like a couple table based sites, couple strict CSS sites and a couple flash based?
radar
(Feb 6 06, 08:40)That depends if the reason you have used tables is because you dont understand CSS/DIVs. It also depends on what they are looking for. If I was looking for someone to make standards complient web-sites (which WILL at some point become gospel) then you wouldn't get the job if you were making them with tables.
Personally I look forward to the day that not 1 browser will load an invalid site. Then you'll have no excuse not to do things properly.
Of course if some distinction was made between web desiners and web "developers" that would really help. I wouldn't expect a Flash Designer to understand CSS.
- ********0
I really want this to be true.
How do I _easily_ center text, an image or another box element of unknown height in a div 600px by 600px?
Vertical-align does just that in a table.
shaft
(Feb 6 06, 08:52)You are programing a website, it's not always meant to be easy. :/
- jevad0
WEB 2.0 IS COMING! WEB 2.0 IS COMING!
- sktII0
You are programing a website, it's not always meant to be easy. :/
determinedmoth
(Feb 6 06, 08:56)That's a pretty shite argument moth.
- ********0
That's a pretty shite argument moth.
sktII
(Feb 6 06, 09:00)It's a pretty shite question.
I can solve it, but it's not a "click - align centre".
- ********0
http://www.determinedmoth.org/cs…
There's yours Skt.
- shaft0
Nerd css fathers killed vertical-align, just say it, dammit!!!
:)
- jevad0
Centering a website using CSS, sans tables...
- sktII0
Cheers moth. All I need now is one of those cool little buttons that says its css. wooo.