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- spk0
"could be aborted and receive the punishment that is due to the rapist."
-gramme
so you are pro-death penalty. and again proven to be a hypocrite.
did you vote for bush big guy?... you did didn't you.
mr. war, mr. death penalty bush - the man who is probably responsible for more death in the last 5 years than anyone else on earth.
if you and the rest of the pro-birth crowd are so damned worried about fetuses for your faux/conflicted religious reasons (have your read Exodus 21:22?)
why the fuck aren't you following jesus' teachings and helping save the three million kids that die each year for environmental reasons (dirty air, dirty water, sanitation) etc.
http://www.who.int/features/grea…
thats double the number of abortions that occur each year in the USA.
you freaks who are obsessed with a culture of life (despite most being death penalty supporters) which is actually a culture of birth should step up or shut up.
- Mimio0
//Sorry Visia, god willed that to happen, the mother is obligated to carry it to term.
- monkeyshine0
Nothing like a bunch of guys, on a design forum no less, pontificating on and on about what women should and should not be allowed to do with their bodies.
We've come so far, no?
- flagellum0
It's scientific too, mimio. Again, the zygote has all the genetic information of an adult human, after conception. This is how life is established. And we should be about preserving and protecting life.
Pregnancies from rape are exceedingly rare. And as gramme said, it's not the baby's fault. There is a long list of wonderful people who have had a lasting positive impact on society, who were conceived under very bad circumstances.
- Mimio0
//Good point monkeyshine, who the fuck are we to have an opinion?
- flagellum0
which would subsequently demonstrate that very good things can come out of very bad situations.
Let's get to the core of the issue here... what I'm against is people thinking they can live and behave any way they want and then not face the consequences and take responsibility for their actions.
Rome 2.0, essentially. Let's not do anything to contribute to the demise of our nation, eh?
- JazX0
Nothing like a bunch of guys, on a design forum no less, pontificating on and on about what women should and should not be allowed to do with their bodies.
We've come so far, no?
monkeyshine
(Jan 23 06, 09:55)hahhaa touche, she's right
- monkeyshine0
Mimio, by all means have your opinion. But I am really tired of the arrogance of men who blither on about the zygote and "not the baby's fault", and on and on.
Until you've been a woman who has been raped or a woman who is in the unfortunate situation of considering an abortion, then zip it. Take care of your own backyard. Treat your women with complete respect. Counsel women who are in bad situations and by all means help them consider their options. But don't you dare presume to know what is best for me and mine.
- flagellum0
"Counsel women who are in bad situations and by all means help them consider their options. "
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Agreed on that. But, is ending human life a viable "option"?
- Mal0
- monkeyshine0
"is ending human life a viable "option"?"
enough with the tired rhetoric. that's your opinion. great. good for you. you still don't have the right to choose for me.
and if you're so damn concerned with "life" then why don't you pro-lifers go out and help all the kids in foster care who's lives are a mess?
your own backyard, man.
- gramme0
"could be aborted and receive the punishment that is due to the rapist."
-gramme
so you are pro-death penalty. and again proven to be a hypocrite.
did you vote for bush big guy?... you did didn't you.
mr. war, mr. death penalty bush - the man who is probably responsible for more death in the last 5 years than anyone else on earth.
if you and the rest of the pro-birth crowd are so damned worried about fetuses for your faux/conflicted religious reasons (have your read Exodus 21:22?)
why the fuck aren't you following jesus' teachings and helping save the three million kids that die each year for environmental reasons (dirty air, dirty water, sanitation) etc.
thats double the number of abortions that occur each year in the USA.
you freaks who are obsessed with a culture of life (despite most being death penalty supporters) which is actually a culture of birth should step up or shut up.
spk
(Jan 23 06, 09:54)Spk,
Please read everything I write before condemning me. I stated VERY clearly last night, in all-caps English, that I didn't vote for Bush, big guy. I do not support his war agenda, and I think he's done a very poor job of upholding environmental laws.
If you use th brain you were given, you would see that there is no hypocrisy. I think that a man's life becomes forfeit only when he has been proven in a court of law to be a murderer. Life is SO precious that if a man takes the life of another, he deserves to die. His own life becomes forfeit. That is justice, plain and simple.
And I fully believe in saving the people who die of disease, starvation, etc. I fully support the war on AIDS that people like Bono have championed.
There are close to 46 million babies aborted every year (worldwide). I call that genocide.
- gramme0
*and my name is not discipler.
- JazX0
the sun is shining off of a monkey
a monkey's bum that is..
;)
- flagellum0
oh, they were referring to me as discipler.
- monkeyshine0
1.35 million U.S. children are homeless on any given night
estimated 523,000 kids are in foster care
Almost 1/3 of low-income families do not have enough money to prepare three meals a day.
In 2000, the total number of teen pregnancies in the United States was 821,810
- mrdobolina0
Quoting the Constitution and quoting a crackpot from the 30's are 2 very different things. The constitution has and can be amended. Her statements cant.
- MrRemote0
We inundate young women with images of sex in our advertising, and culture. We don't educate them proporly at a young enough age in school about it. Then some poor 14 year old gets pregnant and the right says she deserves it for being a slut and should have to live with it.
Bullshit. If David Crosby can get a new liver because he drank his first one away, I think a woman can choose to not become another poverty statistic.
- JazX0
sweet.
we be needin' mo' people in this country of ours. we have to catch up to China.
*puts on hunting cap and get's all horny
- mrdobolina0
And Discipler, the separation of church and state is not a one-sided affair. While it protects people to practice their religion it also protects citizens from having a religion imposed upon them.