Vince Young
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- ********0
VY just as easily could have won the Heisman, it was that one single game Bush had like 600 total yards and DESTROYED that one team all up...!
Too many people watched that and then the propaganda rolls downhill.
- Point50
I'm shocked about the misconception of how many college players are juicing. Yeah, there are indeed players using them, but not all or even most are doing them. It's sad that it seems like that.
- theclassof19340
Reggie Bush vs. Fresno: 518 yrds
VY vs. Oklahome State: 506a negligible difference.
whatever. VY pulled the heisman pose with that crystal football in his hand, and it looked good.
- fullerc0
the Hesiman Trophy is a joke:
anyone remember :
Kijana Carter
Rashadd Salem
Jason White
cruz_azul
(Jan 6 06, 09:46)My ex girlfriend dated Kjana Carter in 9th grade and he never won a Heisman.
- theclassof19340
I would be shocked if any Texas players used steroids. Mack Brown runs one of the cleanest, if not the cleanest big-time program in NCAA football. That guys got too much class to allow himself to be shamed by that rubbish
- ********0
I'm shocked about the misconception of how many college players are juicing. Yeah, there are indeed players using them, but not all or even most are doing them. It's sad that it seems like that.
Point5
(Jan 6 06, 10:23)I would be shocked if any Texas players used steroids. Mack Brown runs one of the cleanest, if not the cleanest big-time program in NCAA football. That guys got too much class to allow himself to be shamed by that rubbish
theclassof1934
(Jan 6 06, 10:27)are you guys kidding me? half the gym at work out at uses Roids, you think these big boys don't? they might not be steroids in the classical sense, but they are definitely taking something
- jondj240
500 yards for a qb is different compared to a 500 yards from a rb and kick/punt returner!!!
qb's rely on tight ends and wideouts...bush's yards were all on his own...its a misconception.
both are dynamite though.
- theclassof19340
Another topic:
David Thomas, Is he one of the top 3 TE going into this draft?
- Point50
Enter response:are you guys kidding me? half the gym at work out at uses Roids, you think these big boys don't? they might not be steroids in the classical sense, but they are definitely taking something
JazX
(Jan 6 06, 10:29)
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I'm not kidding you. I don't know how rampant that shit is out in Pennsylvania or whatever, but when I played college ball (granted it was 9 years ago), very few people juiced on my team. And those who did actually were some of the worst players on the field. I'm far from blind about steroid usage; living in Las Vegas, being a casual bodybuilder (meaning I don't compete), former college ball player and having weighed in at 275 lbs. in my life as well as achieving damn near a 500lbs. bench press and 715 lbs. squat I have seen the best of the naturals and the best of the juice heads. I've never touched juice in my life and I know quite a few ppl stronger than me that never have either. It's crazy because most ppl who do juice are pretty honest about it.I'm not saying that their aren't college athletes, or even high school athletes that aren't juicing. I just don't see it as a rampant epidemic, ESPECIALLY among your skill positions...
- ********0
hmmm, well I don't doubt you're unfamiliar with that environment Point5, but I've heard so much different and especially with the skill players. PSU, Pitt, WVU, etc.
- Point50
I'm sorry if I come off trying to sound like the "authoritah". lol. I think I'm trying to defend those people like me who were often accused but have been au natural all my life. Like I said though, I played 9 years ago, and I was at a smaller, but D1 school and usually, it's the smaller programs with the athlete that feels like they have something to prove. To be honest, it actually blows my mind that you're hearing about the skill players on that shit... maybe I'm out of touch then... I mean I do see an obvious abuse of steroids in the gym here, but this city is like one big testosterone fashion show so I expect it with the Olympia and all being here every year.