We Don't Torture
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- ********0
you know often this goes on in Africa
- ********0
pulling someones fingernails out, being put in a pit of shite and covered in leeches, put on a metal bed frame and hooked up to an outlet, breaking your fingers. all way worse.
dunking your head to me is more psychological.
but i guess if a person is looking for one more reason to hate the man this one will do.
- mrdobolina0
do you think waterboarding is enjoyable, kona?
it's fucking torture when you threaten to drown someone.
- ********0
i was waterboarded once.
or was that bobbing for apples?
either way i was drunk. nevermind.
- mrdobolina0
can you ever be serious 100% about anything?
- ribit0
"Its entitled bullshit hippocracy."
hippocracy= rule by horses
- ********0
can you ever be serious 100% about anything?
mrdobolina
(Nov 7 05, 13:27)aadd
nah i wouldn't like to be waterboarded but fucking a it's not as gigantic as a big deal as you make it out to be. until i see a video of a u.s. servicemen telling a bad guy to beg for mercy for a few hours, then cutting his head off with a dull blade all this u.s. torture talk can kiss my ass.
- mrdobolina0
So, due to the fact that the terrorists are more brutal than the US Gov, you are willing to let them (US Gov) lie about whether or not they torture captives.
Ok, as long as we are clear on that.
- ********0
as long as we both now know the US gov lies just about everything, torturing terrorists really isn't high up on my give a fuck o meter.
i mrdobolina, have bigger things to get my panties in a ruffle about.
don't you?
some dude kills 10 people and a cop breaks his wrist while arresting him, are you the guy who is outraged at the cop and not the guy who just killed all those people? perspective.
- mrdobolina0
how about these?
- DrHuxtable0
Kona, you miss the point of this completely. Your analogy using your job does not work. I know there will be soldiers on their own who will do things they know they are not to on their own. The issue is the people in the President's cabinet are asking for exeptions and there are memos justifying doing this. The fish rots from the head. The US government is in the spotlight because they started a war that most people in the world think was not justified. If they were just punishing soldiers acting on their own this would not be a big deal, but that does not seem to be what is happening.
How you push this issue aside and basically justify that the soldiers should be able to do what they want until you finally see evidence they do worse is fucked up. Yet, this doesn't seem too surprising since you seem to fit the stereotype of a midwesterner living in the suburbs. This issue is bigger than just who is being more fucked up than the other, but you can't seem to see past the nose on your face. Whatver dude, you indifference to human life is appaling. Don't forget to stop at Wal-Mart on the way home to get more ribbon magnets for your car, and a sticker of Calvin pissing on Osama Bin Laden's head.
- ********0
haha. i think you should read them.
"Iraqi male detainee was in US custody at Abu Ghraib. A group of prisoners became unruly and the guards used lethal force to subdue the crowd. A shotgun was fired and detainee was struck and killed. Cause of Death: Shotgun Wound of the head; Manner of Death: Homicide. Final Autopsy Report of this individual is at DOD 013315 - 13320."
again. low on my give a fuck meter.
you must be a better man then me carring so much for a person who would gut you in a heartbeat if he saw you walking down the street is his country.
- mrdobolina0
Do you know how many innocent people were locked up in those prisons in abu ghraib?
FUCKING TONS.
So if they were picked up on the streets of Iraq they must automatically be the terrorists that want to fly a crop duster over suburban chicago and drop anthrax on your cul de sac because they hate your freedom.
You are kind of a xenophobe, dude.
- tactikal20
Kona,
I think its that "you're guilty no matter what" attitude that enrages so many people.... They may be very well all be guilty... but to have such lowregard for human life sure looks like torture to me.... And you should give a fuck...... Cause no matter how you slice it things are never gonna change if this the maturity level that your government operates with. It seems pretty childish to me.
- ********0
Don't forget to stop at Wal-Mart on the way home to get more ribbon magnets for your car, and a sticker of Calvin pissing on Osama Bin Laden's head.
DrHuxtable
(Nov 7 05, 13:44)you totally got me.
- ********0
You are kind of a xenophobe, dude.
mrdobolina
(Nov 7 05, 13:50)hahahaha! oh man. you SO know me don't you.
- mrdobolina0
tell us where we are wrong?
- ********0
how about you just deal with the fact that i fucking think the way i do and stop trying to change everyone to feel and think the way you do. and if they don't you have to drill them here to make them somehow feel inferior to you.
what is the word for a guy like that mrdobolina? a guy who can't accept the fact that the world doesn't revolve around him and his beliefs? what is that?
- ********0
how about you just call me a meathead a few more times cause you think i voted for bush if that helps you feel better.
- tactikal20
I think this is what's wrong with the current social debate that's going on these days.... Everybody thinks they have the other side pegged... so we just argue the stereotypes, instead of actualy discussing what we want for the future, and how we're gonna achieve it.