We Don't Torture
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- ********0
and i was putting general things into perspective.
of course we also have put their korans in the toilet, fake hooked them up to electrical outlets, played metallica music and all those other unbearably horrible things to them.
sorry. i hate metallica but i'd rather listen to that for a week straight then get my head chopped off.
that is what i was getting at.
- mrdobolina0
jazx, read that Wa Post article and then read that PDF.
it's institutional.
war is hell, no doubt but dont fucking lie about the orders you give.
- mrdobolina0
technically, getting beheaded is execution, not torture.
- ********0
ok
- ********0
so the video taping before hand is what then? 15 minutes of fame? its torture. knowing you are going to die.
- mrdobolina0
waterboarding is torture, if the government says they dont torture and they waterboard people, that is still torture, isnt it?
- ********0
fuck yeah wakeboarding is tourture.
you're knees hurt for weeks after.
- ********0
the two people that got busted before were from about 50 miles from here.
West Virginie
- mrdobolina0
"waterboarding," in which a detainee is strapped down, dunked under water and made to believe that he might be drowned.
ummm torture.
- ********0
eh i knew what it was. i've watched the old missing in action movies enough to know what it is.
so you dunk a guys head and make him think he's going to die. then you don't kill him.
or.
you hold a big knife to a persons neck and talk for hours how your going to kill them, make them beg for their lives for a few days, then at the last minute cut off their head. not even in one big samuri like chop. nah, it's more of a cut. way more painful.
dunk me bubba. dunk me.
- DrHuxtable0
Head chopping is totally fucked as well, and I can see how that can be a horrible experience, for not just the soldier, but also the family who has to see it on TV broadcasting on every news station.
The issue is the US Government is involved in treaties, legislation, or whatever which forbids their soldiers, or ordering their soldiers from torturing captives. There is obviously something messed up when the VP is asking if the CIA can be exempt from legislation prohibiting these actions, and there are memos within the government stating torture is acceptable. The "few bad apples" may not be just a few punk soldiers who get off on doing weird shit to prisoners, but people with significant power within this administration. Just because the insurgents do fucked up things, it does not make it ok for us to.
- mrdobolina0
as far as I know, the terrorists aren't claiming that they don't torture. That is the point of this conversation. It has nothing to do with what the terrorists do.
- ********0
we have a few hundred people working for this large company i work for.
for me to say 'we don't steal' is bullshit.
for me to say 'there are some who steal, we try our best to find them and punish them accordingly when we can'
bush fucked himself by making that grossly general statement.
how can you possibly control so many people? they are even more fucked up because you take an oath when you put on that uniform.
- ********0
so how bout them Bucks
*cough
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- mrdobolina0
when you do not want the CIA to follow the same rules as the G.I, you can not say that this administration isnt complicit with the torture. read the article I posted.
- winter0
torture is an outpost of civilization.
shit, i don't get it why people refuse it so much these days, although an exception must be made for bonsai cats. that's crewal.
- mrdobolina0
the bucks are looking real good this year.
- ********0
they went 3-5 in the pre-season.
shack is out at miami.
4th division and 9th conference.
now lets get back to wakeboarding.
- DrHuxtable0
so how bout them Bucks
*cough
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JazX
(Nov 7 05, 13:05)hahah ... word. I'm going saturday night when the Pacers come to town, then the following Wed to watch 76ers lose again.
- mrdobolina0
I guess the real question is, do you think waterboarding is torture?
I do, thus, this government approves of torture and says they don't.