what a bfa gets you
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- studderine0
whats wrong with learning how to match pantone colors?
- ********0
honestly, whenever we look at portfolios and peoples work etc etc.
I really cant remember looking at where they went to school. Most of the people that are really good in our field are self taught. It's about having the drive to be good and have the natural talent.
It's all about the work. I would hire a 17 year old kid before a college graduate anyday if their work was top notch. Sure you do have to put up with a bit of immaturity, but you get that even with college grads.
- travisbarto0
haha. Colin. Definately keep plugging man your a talented kid and deserve better than the mall.
- kyl30
enjoy your time at the mall. it will be short lived, I shot little league portraits for a company on the weekends after I graduated. Great times.
- stringbean0
hey to all the PDX'rs. living here too and actually working at an Apple store in the Inventory Department and doing Freelance on the side.
it sucks but at least i can design. i don't have a degree either and everyone tells me that degrees don't matter but i have thought about getting my Masters in GD.
just piece of mind, i guess.
- ********0
it doesn't get you jack-sh*t, unless you know how to apply yourself and make your experience work to where you can adapt to a certain environment
_done
- arthur0
hey stringbean, you live right down the street from me.
Can you get me an employee discount at the Apple store? :)
- pepe0
good luck man. the only places i can recommend that i know up there are johnston and wolverton and w+k. It is a bitch to get in the door at places
- stringbean0
arthur -
did you check out my resume or something? you live in SE? or are you just saying you live in PDX to get the discount?
:)
- arthur0
I checked your resume. I'm up in Laurelhurst (NE) but not too far from you.
just joking about the discount business...uh, unless you offer it or something :)
- stringbean0
oh sweet. i have a couple of friends in that neighborhood.
nah, the discount is a joke. you wouldn't want it even if you worked there. seriously, its like $100 off a 2.3DC G5.
so, do you work at a firm or just freelance? i've seen your work (at least i think so) on those ODS billboards around Burnside. pretty sweet to have so big on such a major street.
- arthur0
Been freelance for the past 9 years.
Yeah, I did those ODS billboards. I did a new one recently called "Smile" with a lady smiling (for their dental services). I've seen it once along I-84 but it's gone now. I need a photo of it so if you see it around town anywhere give me a shout.
- MLP0
lowe's a pretty big deal... and brooklyn's cheaper than harlem is most spots...
that doesn't make sense that you could get a job at lowe, but can only find a retouching job at the mall... that just says you need to get out there more.
- stringbean0
yeah no worries. i know there is one on Stark and 82nd-ish right near this Vacuum store by I-205.
anyway, good chattin' with another Portlander. keep up the good work.
g'night all
- ********0
stringbean, looked at your portfolio.
I wish you had a more breadth of work, everything is teh same... same client and same style.
It looks like your strong point is photography actually.
- studderine0
wierd, but i guess if your stuff is bomb then a degree really doesnt matter. thank god i am getting my bs.
- MLP0
as far as getting my BFA, it only added 45 more credit hours, time for me to work in internships to learn, and a final senior show.
i didn't learn more in the classes, which is sad and am now having a battle royale about my senior show because my teachers are too old and too traditional to pick up an ounce of what its trying to do. what fun!
- prodigalslacker0
MLP: i think it's 2 things... one is that i knew someone at lowe, and 2 is that portland is way different from new york. lowe happened to have an opening doing ad designs for saab. very strict, regimented, more copy and paste than anything, with a chance to maybe get to do something creative in 3-5 years.
i guess i'm kind of the worst kind of designer, i dont like advertising... i'm much more an info design or nonprofit / good cause type. i know a lot of people are like that, but mall touchups are just temporary. i guess i am surprised, or i wouldn't be posting - lowe seems like a big deal, and to go from that to this is a bit humbling.
oh well, it gives me something to write another book about.
- inhaler0
things brings up an interesting point.. personal work being brash..
During my MFA work, we had to meet and show our work to high class, people that gave money to the school...(long story short) Talking to one of them he said my work was depressing and that he's "worried" about me... Now I just laughed, but you really think that turns off employment? cause if so.. Im screwed. (also im coming from a photographers POV not design, but While there is a difference, I dont think its that broad, as in we in the same boat, even though you on port and im starboard.. or something)
- Point50
I stayed an extra year to get my BFA. Not sure why, but I did it. I did learn a lot more about art history, but I think I've forgotten all that by now.