Why Tupac?
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- mrdobolina0
he conflicted himself on every track. That conflict is what I think I lot of people thought was interesting about him.
One track he would be talking about fucking your wife and the next he would be talking about his mama and her struggle trying to bring him up in the world.
- ricstultz0
I think Tupac and Biggie were both important in relating to the street audience....
Biggie was a far more talented artist. His first album "Ready to die" is genius with it's sheer emotional bulk. i would argue with anyone who believes otherwise.... waht other rapper has adressed suicide, his mothers breast cancer, etc in such an eliquent way. he told stories people with limited education could follow and apply to their lives. even tho his second album is mostly shite.
Tupac had raw charisma and alot of emotion... which related to many in the inner cities. I dont think he deserves the credit he gets tho.
Biggie does.I can talk hip hop all day.
- Ramanisky20
Never was a fan of his music
but....
I think outside of his HipHop persona he was actually a good guy.........Suge Knight was his demise
Not only that but he was quite a good actor too.....
"Gang Related" with James Belushi was very good movie
as was Tupac Ressurection
- mrdobolina0
to see him deified in the black community more than people like bob marley blows my mind though.
- dc_again0
mayo - like i said in my post, it's all relative. i'm not claiming that when he was interviewed it was like watching dean martin, for example, get interviewed. it's all relative. there aren't many rappers out there with charisma. krs-one maybe. LL on a good day. er.... and... ...
- frankfido1010
I haven't read any posts but this is the wrong forum to be asking about why Tupac was such a groundbreaking artist.
- ricstultz0
word dobs... there are many who dont get credit.
I think as far as reggae/roots artists go Burning Spear should get mad credit (he was ironically brought to his first studio by marley).
Hip Hop is all about chuck D... you cant fade what that man spoke. PE still gives me chills sometimes. I just found "It Takes a nation" on vinyl at exclusive co.
- mayo0
dc, and i'm still not trying to be a smart ass, please give an example of *why* he was so charismatic. I don't understand this devotion to him and why he is still coming out with albums.
- mrdobolina0
ric, I bought a gil scott heron live cd at that store a couple weeks back.
- dc_again0
mayo, i know you're not trying to be a smart ass, i just don't what else to say. how do you define charisma, and if you can how can you then pick out a particular moment or phrase? (especially someone who was never a fan of his anyway). he just seemed to have a presence on screen. a personality. a grin and a sense of humour. intelligence. didn't just sit there with an attitude trying to stare down the interviewer. not that usual attitude of "i ain't gonna say shit coz i'm cool and cool people don't give anything away". i don't know. sorry.
- jevad0
yep - chuck D and PE were all the charisma I needed
They didn't have to talk about bitches, drugs, or whatever the fuck a 'thug life' is to get their message across.....
- driftlab0
right on. Chuck's voice had an authority to it. And the rhymes were brilliant.
- mrdobolina0
I'm telling you, it was the conflict that made people like tupac.
- mrdobolina0
I have seen PE perform live 6 or 7 times.
ever read chuck d's book(s)?
- Nac0
i guess you need to understand his poetry, and grow up in the utter shit that he had grew up in. Name another rapper who actually made lyrics to fit lifestyle as a whole, but in positive ways. Hell yes Tupac was spewing gangsta shit everywhere, but at the same time, he honestly wanted to get people going to help. Not fake ass rappers these days who just fucking write out a check for a couple grand and say that they are 'helping the community"...Tupac used song for this too... take 50 cent for example..who i fucking hate...he starts up some learning foundation...but you never hear about that....it would kill his 'tough guy' image ....you will never hear rappers today singing about that shit... all they want to do is see who has the biggest tires, and can get their next song onto a club dance floor. Tupac grew up in shit, and he stayed around it, he didn't forget who he was. if you guys haven't lived through shit like that then don't talk... "his lyrics make me shutter"...or hi stuff was just all gangsta.... live the life brother...come down to the areas and live a few years in stuff like he did, it would drive you fucking nuts too. Read his lyrics...he wasn't out to see who can create the wierdest shit, or if he can make people laugh by putting bull shit like antlers on peoples heads in videos... or riding around saying he was bigger than God himself. He knew who he needed to respect and who he was gonna disrespect... You have fucking rappers today saying: im a hustla....i can sell water to a whale.... who the fuck cares... why don't you use that damn talent ..put it in your lyrics and sell 'education to a kid" His voice was strong, and it attracted people....people talk about tupac and they remember his life...welll most people apparently... people talk about Bob Marley and they remember weed (not disrespecting Bob, because the guy is tight)...so stop fucking talking shit just because if something is mainstream..then it is totally not cool....live the life brothers and sisters....and maybe then you'll understand.
- driftlab0
No but a friend from my old church used once did a photo shoot of Chuck and he kept calling her "baby". She didn't care for that and finally insisted he call her by her name.
Fun lil tidbit.
- uncle_helv0
I'm not a huge fan, but I think it is a shame to see the record label diluting his sound, I mean I know he layed down loads of lyrics but that was over 10 years ago it's not like his sound has progressed just remixed and if that wasn't enough adding likes of Elton John just makes me sick, I bet he will be turning in his grave to have been paired up with that wanker!!
- jevad0
PE was the first concert I ever went to...erm...after wham...but I was really young then. Bands hardly ever came through Hong Kong...so when public enemy did in my junior year it was a mad scramble for tickets...
They played this open air arean type place...and when everybody started standing on the chairs the staff started freaking out.
So after a few songs chuck says:
"yo yo yo - the staff here told us to tell you to get off the chairs...but yo...we don;t give a FUCK about the chairs so rip them out if you have to!"
Then he had every fucking white boy in there chanting 'Fuck the Queen!' (HK was still a British colony then....)
awesome.
- canuck0
PE was cool except for that Professor Griff dude.
- dc_again0
i saw PE 3 times (first time as a 14 year old skinny white kid at Brixton Academy). i was crazy about them. i nearly got expelled from school coz i refused to take my public enemy black bomber jacket off.
think it's totally wrong to compare them to tupac though. they couldn't be more different, nor could the type of music they were/are doing.