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- coulstring0
...I've just been shouted at for saying "good" upon the news....
Thing is, what do the Police do? "oh...would you like the opportunity to explode your device so that we can properly confirm your a terrorist threatening to endanger or kill innocent bystanders"...
erm, no...you takes your chance...you pays your price.
- honest0
anybody here watch that movie "The Siege"? what happens at the end of it?
- jah_0
i don't get one thing, the witnesses say that the police stopped the suspect on the ground: "they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him".. well.. a 'bundle' of cops can't hold a guys arms and cuff him? and prevent the suspect to detonate a bomb (if he had one)?
i don't get it. i thought that what separated us from extremist terrorits was fair judgment. shoot first ask questions later is a bit.. extremist imo. george w. bush stylee.
the brits survived hitler with spirit. they survived the IRA with spirit. can't they survive this wave of al queda terror with spirit too? has it to be through fear? fear is a path to ignorancy.
shocked.
- Crouwel0
If the guy was innocent, there is no way the police can afford to reveal that.
They may be stupid but not that stupid.
its_only_me
(Jul 22 05, 04:07)how would they go about doing that?
give the family of the victim a million pounds and tell them to shut up for the rest of their lives???
- dc_again0
sorry but i call bollocks.
this is only an excuse, to gain popularity.Osama and the likes didn't have any sympathy for Iraq before, many muslim groups there hate him, he hated Saddam who was no muslim but "christian" etc.etc.etc.
In fact AlQueda is more pissed off over the destruction of their bases in Afghanistan and the extinction of the Taliban regime then the war in Iraq. Believe me.
Crouwel
(Jul 22 05, 04:05)think you've missed the point Crouwel. i believe all lowimpakt was saying was "let's get on with business usual. if they can have that opinion in Iraq, so can we". and that's what i was "hear hearing" at. Iraq could have been substitued for any other location where they have to go through this shit all the time.
- dc_again0
give the family of the victim a million pounds and tell them to shut up for the rest of their lives???
Crouwel
(Jul 22 05, 04:09)wtf? have you not been reading the papers? the families don't know. "hi dad". "hi son". "where've you been?". "terror school in pakistan". "nice?". "yeah".
sorry, looks like i'm picking on you, but i'm not. you just don't seem to be on the ball today.
- Crouwel0
oh haha, sorry.
guess i am a lil too uptight here due to all the stress and shit.
forgive me.
:)
- its_only_me0
"hi son". "where've you been?". "terror school in pakistan". "nice?". "yeah".
dc_again
(Jul 22 05, 04:12)bwaaaa haaaa
- Crouwel0
dc_ this time you did not get what i said. :D
we were assuming that if the police shot an INNOCENT person how would they go about keeping that secret??
- Crouwel0
here's the two posts together:
---If the guy was innocent, there is no way the police can afford to reveal that.
They may be stupid but not that stupid.
its_only_me
(Jul 22 05, 04:07)how would they go about doing that?
give the family of the victim a million pounds and tell them to shut up for the rest of their lives???
Crouwel
(Jul 22 05, 04:09)
- Crouwel0
"wtf? have you not been reading the papers? the families don't know. "hi dad". "hi son". "where've you been?". "terror school in pakistan". "nice?". "yeah"."
must admit this made me giggle as well tho! ;)
- its_only_me0
dc_ this time you did not get what i said. :D
we were assuming that if the police shot an INNOCENT person how would they go about keeping that secret??
Crouwel
(Jul 22 05, 04:14Easy
The last terrorists family didnt know they were bombers.
The cops will just do the same to this guys family and tell them he was a terrorist.
- paddywop0
If the guy was innocent, there is no way the police can afford to reveal that.
They may be stupid but not that stupid.
its_only_me
(Jul 22 05, 04:07)They would have to, because the guy would have family, friends ect..
The chances of him being an innocent civillian look slim in my opinion, because of the police. They weren't an armed response unit, they were plain clothed and that suggests a covert force or even the secret service. Why were they there? they were obviously on top of someone already, and it looks like this guy was that 'someone'.
I hope to god he wasnt an innocent member of the public, but i also hope he wasnt a fundamentalist about to blow up another tube.
- Crouwel0
ah, that's rather cruel though!
so all pakistani's and everyone that looks like one better not be going on the sub, especially not with any luggage???
- dc_again0
we were assuming that if the police shot an INNOCENT person how would they go about keeping that secret??
Crouwel
(Jul 22 05, 04:14)that's right. and you said that they would have to pay the family millions of pounds to shut up. my point is, shut up about what? they don't know if their son is innocent or not. they can't say "take this money so you don't tell The Sun that actually your son is a nice chap".
- its_only_me0
They would have to, because the guy would have family, friends ect..
The chances of him being an innocent civillian look slim in my opinion, because of the police. They weren't an armed response unit, they were plain clothed and that suggests a covert force or even the secret service. Why were they there? they were obviously on top of someone already, and it looks like this guy was that 'someone'.
I hope to god he wasnt an innocent member of the public, but i also hope he wasnt a fundamentalist about to blow up another tube.
paddywop
(Jul 22 05, 04:17)Yet again, they will just tell his family he was a bomber.
The last bombers family did not know what they were doing.
It just means his family will hate him even though he's innocent.
...nice
- dc_again0
its_only_me - you seem to be certain that this guy is innocent, and maybe some of the guys from July 7th. do you work for CTU?
- paddywop0
that's right. and you said that they would have to pay the family millions of pounds to shut up. my point is, shut up about what? they don't know if their son is innocent or not. they can't say "take this money so you don't tell The Sun that actually your son is a nice chap".
dc_again
(Jul 22 05, 04:17)but how do you convince people that their sikh or buddist or christian son was a muslim fundamentalist.
- Crouwel0
argh you guys are complicated, really complicated.. :D
simple:
assumption:
guy appeared to be no terrorist, but innocent.second assumption:
the police cannot afford to have the public know this = that they shot an innocent person 5 times.my question:
how would they go about doing that?then someone said:
by telling the parents he was a terrorist. which seems very very cruel but if that's the way they handle things.. :/then people here started to turn things around again and now i am confused i am gonna go outseide and smoke another fag yes i just started smoking again cuz the stress on my side is huge at the moment and i just thought i'd chat with you guys here but i forgot to realize you people can become so complicated and uptight about my questions or assumptions or whatever that i am really gonna go nuts here now while all i want to be now is friends goddamn my life is sad i know i am gonna go outside now scratch my balls in public and suck on my fag,
see ya.
- Crouwel0
but how do you convince people that their sikh or buddist or christian son was a muslim fundamentalist.
paddywop
(Jul 22 05, 04:22AHAAAAAAA!!!!
WELL..? WELL... ????