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- spaniard0
The fact that blair gave his response speech with bush in camera directly behind him was terrible, also as soon as blair was on his chopper down to london, bush starts talking to the press from gleneagles! cheeky sod.
- ********0
Rusty, normally I'm in agreement with what you say.
today your comments are those of an insensitive prick.
"WHAT IF" doesn't matter now, what matters is that we show compassion and solidarity.
(anyone who knows me knows what my opinion of the war is and indeed of the people who took us there, now is not the time that's all.)
- lowimpakt0
Felt VERY good being there. Should be very emotional...
spaniard
-----------------------I saw that (collection of shorts) film "Madrid M11: We Were All on That Train" and it was very heavy but to see how the spanish people responded to the tragedy was so inspiring.
http://www.independentcinemaoffi…
kiko. you're right but my point is root is bigger than blair and iraq.
peace
- rename0
MX_OnD: Of course it matters now more than ever. If you have to raise your voice and make something against Blair is surely now.
- PonyBoy0
"Middle eastern oppression has been going on long before these bombings."
Kiko
(Jul 8 05, 02:26)Enter response:
nice to read someone going back further than the Bushes or even Reagan for that matter. I skip Clinton because no gave a fuck that bombed the shit out of Kosovo to cover up his blow-job...
... after WWII - The Jews needed a new home so-to-speak... ever since they were 'given' the right to be the 'power' in the 'holy land'... all hell broke loose.
Yep - Arab nations and cultures that had ALSO been there for years GOT FUCKED. I understand their anger - they're poor, over-looked and their rulers are bound by power & money.
It's a shitty set-up and their only way they think they're going to be heard is by killing your mother and my uncle... that's why it's called terror... the 'political targets' are every-day joes... not organized armies under a uniform code (which is a pile of shit too.. that's also terrorism IMHO).
I really wish people would stop blaming this shit on Blaire and Bush... you fuckers need to open your eyes and go back a few more years and understand why the world's in the state it's in... Blair and Bush are the poor saps that get the blame... but I promise you that the rulers before these two were fucking up just as hard.
- donal0
Well said Kau. Someone with their eyes open, their ears open and their brain open.
RustyBadge
(Jul 8 05, 02:08)____________
Its always important to approach this kind of subject with and open brain.
- DavidFelt0
I agree MX, now is the time for calm, people in London and around the country/world to stick together, try to get on with our daily lives as much as possible, I cant say I totally agree with anyone in this thread, I feel its a huge can of worms and maybe none of us will ever know why these terrible things happen.
Sensitivity is the key now, I nearly punched some insesitive fucker on the bus this morning.. he worked for First Bus Manchester and was joking: "ah well, it was a Stagecoach (Rival company) bus and there shares have gone down tweleve pence today..hahahah"
Fucking insensitive twat!
- ********0
rename:
I disagree.
The time was 5th May 2005.
Now is the time for us as a population (world population) to show solidarity with our brother man and sister woman. To show kindness to all we encounter and to put all hatred behind us.
What is done is done, lets move forward and try to make the future better instead of hacking around on past events we cannot change.
- spaniard0
I was jammed in a crowd near atocha station and an old woman collapsed next to me and cracked her head on the pavement, I had to pick her up and carry her through the crowd to a nearby bar, when we went in and everyone saw the blood they freaked out, but she was ok. It was more than a demo, it was the whole city out on the streets just saying 'enough, we don't want this'. Incredibly powerful. There was a huge politcal change afterwards but I won't get into that, needless to say foreign policy is very different now. I live just around the corner from where they made the first arrests of suspects, very muslim heavy neighbourhhood, lots of neighbours knew them, but to this day I haven't seen one single anti muslim incident related to the atocha bomb, which I reckon is pretty incredible, and inspiring.
- rename0
Well for sure everything is rooted long time ago but Bush and Blair perpetuate this situation.
I remember last year when reagan died, not a single fucking person wrote or said how horrible president he was.Additionaly:not a single fucking person wrote or said how horrible the pope was.
- Kiko0
Now is the time for us as a population (world population) to show solidarity with our brother man and sister woman. To show kindness to all we encounter and to put all hatred behind us.
MX_OnD:
(Jul 8 05, 02:44)I agree, but meanwhile we are still occupying Iraq, we have still implanted and Americanised president in Afghanistan, we are still supplying arms to Israelis, and we are still threatening the Iranians.
- iDp0
Don't some of you find it a bit odd that as a majority, left wingers discredit one of the reasons Bush wanted to go to war with Iraq was because of terrorist ties with Al Queda? I mean seeing as Al Queda has gone after countries who had involvement in the war (i.e. Spain and now England) I would think that there would be no question that there is a bond between the two. Or are we just under the impression that the arab chivalry of Al Queda has instantly spilled over in support of Iraq?
Anyways I'm off to bed.
My thoughts are with the families of the victims, may peace be with them.
- rename0
Does it sound like hatred because I scream and I am outrageous of the monsters that rule the world right now?
MX:" What is done is done" ...well we dont change the world with this attitude....maybe I am too idealistic.
Piece to everybody
xoxoxo
- vespa0
yes it does sound like hatred rename. you are preaching to the converted at the most inappropriate time.
- rename0
Ok Vespa. I hate Blair and Bush.
and I am perfectly fine with it.
xxx
- ********0
"well we dont change the world with this attitude"
We can only change our immediate surroundings which is exactly why we should ALL be positive and kind to ALL we meet.
Want a revolution?
Try a loving one.
- unfittoprint0
only a retard would see Spain's actions in the aftermath of the Atocha bombing as a retreat.
#1 An absolute majority against the presence in Iraq
#2 A lying government blaming the outcome on ETA
conclusion:
#1 PP lost the elections
#2 the responsibles for the tragedy are either dead, jailed or on the run.
what will be the tipping point for the UK?
- rename0
MX: "Want a revolution?
Try a loving one."
Right. we heard it more than 30 years ago....but have we really changed?
- ********0
MX: "Want a revolution?
Try a loving one."
Right. we heard it more than 30 years ago....but have we really changed?
rename
(Jul 8 05, 04:04)Wasn't Ghandi successful?
- donal0
We're in the middle of a revolution. You are all revolting!
HoHo! You can use that.