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- JazX0
wow, crazy I forgot about that. Sir Bob
- kelpie0
Bit harsh to say Bob was responsible anyway, fucker was shagging his wife forchristssake :)
- Kes0
dont knock it till you tried it
- kelpie0
autoasphixiation
lowimpakt
(Jun 6 05, 08:23)our resident expert ;)
- spendogg0
Ahhh the choke and wack - scandolous indeed.
- lowimpakt0
autoasphixiation
- JazX0
Wasn't geldolf partially reponsible for the INXS guy offing himself? I will never forgive - even if he was pinky.
spendogg
(Jun 6 05, 08:21)hahha, Geldof's wife was cheating on him with Michael Hutchens right? They said he died from that strange form of masturbation. o_O
- spendogg0
Wasn't geldolf partially reponsible for the INXS guy offing himself? I will never forgive - even if he was pinky.
- lowimpakt0
the G8 - promoting neoliberalism overseas and protectionism at home.
lowimpakt, 2005.
- JazX0
That depends, but you have a good point.
- Kes0
Jaz, rather than aid would you prefer the US abandoned the immense subsidies it gives to its farmers, maintaining one of the most inefficient workforce in the world, so it can live true to its principles of the free market that it forces upon African nations?
- lowimpakt0
aside from the corrupt orchestartion of the global economy maintaining a status quo of poverty to benefit the rich most national aid programs benefit the donor countries more than the benefactor. e.g. the US manage to have 80 cents of every dollar of aid return to the country.
you have to spend money to make money.
to be honest the corruption of some recipient as a excuse of preventing development assistance is complete bollox at the end of the day - when seen in the context of the corruption of the global economy.
- JazX0
Jaz part of the debt relief being proposed by the British is intended to have stipulations of good governance in exchance for aid. Not simply throwing money at leaders to distribute at their behest.
Kes
(Jun 6 05, 07:47)well then I'm all for it. Aid comes in different packages too. How many volunteers go to places like this every year to assist in things other than dumping money into someone's hands. a lot
- JazX0
Anyway, I don't think anyone can legitimately say what's what. Ok, yes they have busted countless leaders over the years with money they probably shouldn't have, etc. Swiss/offshore bank accounts, etc.
However, is there a mechanism in place that regulates what a leader or regime can take and not give back to the country itself, etc.?
- kelpie0
and is Bob not all about political pressure this year rather than fund raising?
(including swearing in our parliament. Shocking Irish monkey ;)
- Kes0
Jaz part of the debt relief being proposed by the British is intended to have stipulations of good governance in exchance for aid. Not simply throwing money at leaders to distribute at their behest.
- JazX0
yup, sad eh? not to mention the 90% admin deal. I'm not being hard on Africa. the leaders are the sh*theads, not the people
- kelpie0
isn't the whole point to try to address the black hole our aids been going into to service these guys wallets rather then thier countries debt?
Please (seriously) correct me if I'm wrong but I've been thinking that was the one difference to this years plans, it's not just chucking money at dictatorial regimes and hoping they have a wave of conscience this time?I should point out I am disgustingly ignorant on this front. Please enlighten me, pan-african experts of NT :)
- lowimpakt0
jaz - NGO's run into the same trouble everywhere. the same way that not all of the relief aid has reached the right areas after that tsunami because of inter/regional politics. Don't be so hard on Arica all the time. :)
- JazX0
who the f*ck knows, you know?