National ID Cards
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- k770
sorry randoman, i can't find your post. and dating girls is easy enough. and if i see a hot chick do i want to know about her ahead of time? can i just make her giggle right there and google her after?
you're basically talking mark of the beast (see bible) to me and i'm too distrusting of the powers that be, to be convinced. so until then i'll keep my chipcast filthy. that means i get blow jobs right?
- mrdobolina0
ha
- skt0
Have you ever been involved in terrorism:
YES/NO?
errrm, how do answer that?
stem
(May 11 05, 04:15)A big boy did it and ran away.
- QuincyArcher0
Martial Law has been declared
Stay in Your Homes.
mrdobolina
(May 10 05, 14:12)SHUT UP! BE HAPPY! obey all orders without question!
i love jello biafra...
but my resistence to national ID cards is three fold.
1. it's been said, we already have so many forms of identification, i don't want another. people are still going to ask for SSN, driver's license, and is some cases birth certificates. I've seen nothing that says that the id cards will consolidate these.
2. RFID chips will be used...which means that your information can be read from afar, without your consent.
3. if you ever lost the thing, you'd be screwed!
- skt0
It's said that if you put a frog into boiling water it will sense the danger immediately and leap out.
However, if you put a frog into tepid water and slowly raise the heat it will never notice but it will die.
normal
(May 11 05, 03:47)Ha! I just answered a post in this thread with the title of a book by christpopher brookmyre and then went back through the the thread and found this. Boiling a Frog is another of his books and is a reference exactly this in terms of political climate.
- TheTick0
I love these scintillating conversations about meaningful things here. Really I do.
- skt0
Reference >to< exactly this.
- ribit0
remember in some REALLY free countries the police cant demand any ID unless you are operating a motor vehicle or something like that. It's part of a 'small government' approach, and protection against future tyrannical governments.
on the other hand, i'd like to have a really useful ID that can do all sorts of stuff easily...
- todelete__20
dobs, i was about to ask the same thing.
i'm wondering if any/many people in this thread even know exactly what these cards mean/do or is their worry all speculation and assumptions.
i'm also getting a kick out of how many europeans are in on the discussion which makes no sense cause i can't figure out how this involves them. or does it cause from what i've read it doesn't.
so, please, will someone spell it out for me/us?
- emecks0
brookmyre is teh mutt's nuts!!
- olive0
At least you could open a bank account straight away. When I moved to the UK it took me 2 months, and I had already 6000 quid in wages, and they didn't even want to open an account then. This was in 98. A friend of mine (French) was working in London for a year and didn't manage to open an account at all, he did everything with his account in France (which cost him a fortune in exchange)
- rasko40
from another thread:
"Remember that everyone's ass is as unique as a fingerprint."
now theres your answer
- honest0
We've had ID cards in HK for years, we get the same kind of trouble from immigrants who snuck in from all over Asia and counterfeiting problems all over the shop. So what can you do?
- paraselene0
so this is what y'all are doin' instead of hijacking t'other thread like y'were spos' to.
rnh.
*cracks whip
- jamble0
Wake up, we are not living under a tyranny that seeks to enslave, track and terrorize it's own citizens.
randoman
(May 10 05, 13:54)So you don't live in the US then?
National ID cards in the US and here in the UK are a joke of an idea based on the premise that they will solve the terrorism "problem".
How is it when every other item of identification can be forged, ID cards will provide anything other than a new medium to copy?
How, when terrorists are quite capable of operating within a country years prior to an attack would an ID card stop them when they have legitimate ID in other forms?
In the UK, I must say I don't object to ID cards per se, I object to all my information being held by a single, almost certainly incompetent, government agency and also the fact that we are expected to actually pay for poxy things!
- emecks0
so this is what y'all are doin' instead of hijacking t'other thread like y'were spos' to.
rnh.
*cracks whip
paraselene
(May 11 05, 04:44)*gets distracted from the hiJacken in blind awe of para and her 20 foot electrified bull whip.
- mrdobolina0
the EU will be getting cards soon enough as well as talk about it in the UK. That is why they care.
I just don't know what problem the institution of these cards is supposed to solve.
- mrdobolina0
here is a scenario that I thought up today. If you have ever bought liquor or cigarettes or a prescription in america you know that some, if not most of the time, you are carded. if these clerks got your id and suddenly started scanning it to make it 'easier' than keying in your birthdate, this information could be compiled. think of the multitude of ways that this could be used?
- stem0
“A world of unseen dictatorship is conceivable, still using the forms of democratic government.”
This is a good read:
Written in the 50's but still, VERY RELEVANT.
- Kuz0
i never thought
"go read chomsky"
and
"i voted tory" would be uttered under the same breath by the same person