Adobe Speculation
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- Mimio0
Exactly Kuz & Toastie,
They wouldn't buy Macromedia if they wanted competition and had the innovative ideas to spend the 3.5 billion on.
- ********0
dude, we'll wait to see what actually happens.
they might have carved a niche market for themselves within the broader multi-media designer world, but they were in direct competition over several products - including Freehand/Illustrator. The only reason Macromedia is more concerned with the web is because it's a smaller company. Adobe has it's hand in everything from print to web to post-production.
How is having one company a better thing? And how is having one company better to "handle the growth of our industry"?
Having several companies is no hindrance to the growth of the industry.
You just gotta look at the shit microsoft spews to know this is potentially very dangerous.
And I have no problem with the integration of Adobe and Macromedia products. When you have several smaller companies, they are forced to agree standards - like back in the early days. When you have giant companies, they impose their often crude standards and refuse to accept standards in order to stifle competition.
There is a lot to be worried about. And we'll wait and see if CS gets cheaper now that they don't have Macromedia to worry about.
Anyway, this is becoming another topic i'm wasting too much time with.
out.
- IRNlun60
it's an assumtion that adobe only makes money from print. I don't work with print and I use photoshop daily and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
- ********0
oh and john, sarcasm wont make your point sound more valid. just makes you seem a tad petulant :)
- toastie0
no, no, see, they make very good software. I love photoshop. I love most of adobe's programs. But you know why they're so good? Because they had to be better than all the others coming throught the late 90s. Why do you think the last 2 photoshop releases had like 2 new features in them? Because there's nothing remotely as good as photoshop right now and they can release new versions with barely any features in them. If tehre was software that came close, you better believe they'd break their own balls cramming it full of features that their would be competition missed.
- rabattski0
i knew it! i knew it! i knew it! indesign will be able to generate animated gifs in the future! brilliant!
- johndiggity0
i'm sorry for raising a valid point. fact is photoshop had no competition from any other product, yet it has evolved very nicely and rapidly from version to version. you are just speculating while i am actually basing my opinions on factual matter.
- jkosoy0
wow. didn't know this would upset people that much.
rabattski
(Apr 18 05, 07:25)
----I cried when the news broke. I tore my beard off and cursed the day God created the earth.
Ok that's a lie. I never had a beard to begin with.
- Elfangio0
3.4 bilions?! Why do I dont feel guilty by pirate Adobe software anymore!? :D
- vburo0
will we only need one serial for all then??
;P
- rabattski0
let's get things straight.
macromedia and adobe overlap, they don't serve 2 different markets. freehand is print, imageready is web. etc.
both kuz and john are right. it's hard to tell how it's gonna end up right now. will it become better or worse? will it become cheaper or more expensive? who knows, it can go both ways.
anyways, various institutions concerning monopolizing already keep an eye on this so i don't worry about that.
however i do know that adobe / mm know that if they slack that always someone else will jump into the market. e.g. indesign vs. xpress. so i think in the end it'll work out positively.
- Elfangio0
we'll fight it by cracking it even more! :P
- toastie0
what do you mean no competition?? How about paint shop pro, fireworks and the gimp for starters? photoshop may have been leaps and bounds ahead of them at any given point, but they did provide a reason to keep getting better.
- rabattski0
there is ofcourse competition, sort of, but some apps like photoshop have become an industry standard and replacing an industry standard isn't that easy. again: indesign.
that's not to say it's not possible, i seriously think that new apps will become the industry standard because it can always be better.
- Mimio0
InDesign only exists because Adobe failed in it's aquisition of Quark in 98.
- rabattski0
and the point is? it does excist doesn't it?
if then else.
let me rephrase it:
InDesign only exists because a meteorite hasn't hit the earth yet.
:)
- toastie0
another thing people dont realize is that both adobe and macromedia's many apps were not theirs originally. Flash was not developed by Macromedia in the beginning, and Pagemaker, which InDesign came from was not developed by Adobe
- rabattski0
yeah i know toastie, but what's the point of that?
- Mimio0
Rabattski,
You can't see that the refusal to sell Quark to Adobe spawned a more competitive product? What do you think we're talking about here?
- IRNlun60
Doesn't anybody use Corel?
*ducks