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- discipler0
vburo, yes. There is a science called "Textual Criticism" used by historians and scholars to verify the reliablity of ancient historical documents. :)
- vburo0
david blane fulfilled his prophecy with miraculous relaiblity that he could stay in a box with no food for thirty days.
doesn't make him any less of a twat tho.
weestu
(Apr 6 05, 07:48)touché!
- unfittoprint0
Bible is ubercool cos it supports incest.
let's see...
Adam + Eve > Caim + Abel >... > us!?
motherfuckers indeed.
- Jaline0
yeah, there are wrong ways yet no right ways.
It's all sooooo confusing and complicated.
- ********0
i've also read historians speak of how most of jesus and his parables and teachings weren't unique. Because he belonged to a small sect of radical humanist jews, who were all about helping the poor. Jesus just became a martyr figure for them.
- ********0
wow. if everyone put this much time and effort into design critiques and answering questions this would be the best design board in the world!
i love you religiontoday!
- RobTheMighty0
Interestingly the Jewish scribal process was meticulous in detail because of their great reverence for the Scriptures. They counted the number of letters, words, and lines. If a single mistake was dis-covered, the entire manuscript would be destroyed. Thus the Hebrew Bible is far more accurate than all other ancient manuscripts. Attested by the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I am reading through the Bible now as I wasn't sure if I ever had!
- xaoscontrol0
I find it funny how people convieniently forget that Jesus was a jew. I got into a discussion with this anti-semite once and he brought up the "i don't like jews because of...blah blah blah...and they killed the lord and savior".
I said, "do you study the bible and go to church regularly? participate in church events and such?"
He said, "no".
I said, "well you may want to consider it....it'll educate you on the fact that jesus was a jew and it'll give a better reason to refer to Jesus as 'the lord and savior'." He was dumbfounded.
I just don't like it when people are are christian when it's convienent.
None the less, here's something I've thought about regarding the bible.
When it was originally written, is it not possible that during it's translation into the King James version, alot of the descriptive text that was used was incorrectly translated simply because they had no way of describing specific events or things with the language of the time.
If we saw 2000 years into the future, chances are slim that we're going to be able to accurately describe what we saw so that others could understand because the technology 2000 years from now is likely to be more advanced than our current technology. Just a thought...I'm sure I'm not the only one to process that concept..
- ********0
vburo, yes. There is a science called "Textual Criticism" used by historians and scholars to verify the reliablity of ancient historical documents. :)
discipler
(Apr 6 05, 07:51)
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No there isn't! wish u'd stop making things up.Some should give you a lesson in deconstrution and the creation of narratives/meta-narratives through discourses. It's the complete falsification of science. Even though science does often itself try and present meta-narratives.
- Jaline0
question:
did Adam and Eve have sex before marriage?
- Mal0
One should never beleive everything one reads. The media has a bad track record when it comes to the truth.
- acescence0
what about all the people on this planet that have no knowledge of or access to the bible and it's teachings? are they all doomed to spend eternity in hell?
if god is all knowing, at the moment of creation god would know all that would accept and all that would reject him... so doesn't that completely negate free will?
- discipler0
Kes, I fear that debating the "issues" you raise would do much for generating heat, but little for generating any light. I have presented facts. Feel free to do the research yourself, if you care enough. Look into the manuscripts: Codex Siniaticus, Codex Vaticanus, and Dead Sea Scrolls, for starters. Study the nature of the specific fulfilled prophecies I mentioned above and when those prophecies were made. Also, get familiar with the science of textual criticism. Finally, please don't feel intimidated by Christians who know what they believe and why they believe it. Sometimes the media caricatures you see are not true.
As for the plan of redemption. All world religions share a common theme: performance to earn a deitie's favor. This appeals to human nature - we want something to do with it. Christianity, in contrast, offends human nature by telling us we are bankrupt in our sin and that a loving God reached down to us in the person of Jesus, who lived a sinless life in exchange for our sin-steeped lives and payed a penalty that we deserved to pay. And that all we have to do to have the perfect nature of Christ imputed to us, is to accept it as a free gift... absolutely free and apart from performance. Why? Because God's standard is perfection and only Christ met that standard. This, is the Good News. :)
- numberoneson0
I know a guy who swears he wrote the bible. He claims to be a time traveller and gave me some lottery numbers for the year 2115.
- ********0
Bible is ubercool cos it supports incest.
let's see...
Adam + Eve > Caim + Abel >... > us!?
motherfuckers indeed.
unfittoprint
(Apr 6 05, 07:51):O
- Jaline0
did they?
- ********0
Discipler - this is your downfall, you're employment of Meta-narratives and the falsification of language. Everything you say is littered with this crap.
"Metanarraives are declared language games that are inherently partial and interested, intended to endorse particular relations of power and to privilege certain groups in historical struggles. Jean-Francois Lyotard argues for a plurality of particular narratives, limited and localized accounts that attempt to explain features of experience that grand narratives exclude. The reason Lyotard rejects these grand narratives of the human condition is because they privilege certain points of view."
- Jaline0
have sex before marriage?
- Jaline0
anyway, i have to leave now
- laurus0
k0na:
Jesus shaves!