iraqi vote...
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- robotron3k0
a kentuckian who can read.
nice. your probably should join your bretheren here, because your talent is being wasted.
- liquid0
I read 3 posts on this thread...wont read no more.....wont have to
all I have to say is they had higher percentage then us..... 44 casualties out of 8 million voting...
and in the 2 years we have had there......we have more murders in certain u.s. cities per capita then we have lost in the whole country combined....
they have suffered greater casualties among their own civilians then we have. And it's obvious that they are out in force.
It's not the end. It's a step.
How many people did we lose on our way to democracy......how many people did we lose in our civil war....
they may be on the verge of it (civil war)....but so were we....... all of you suddenly forget american history... we were run by tyrants...
we were in many wars for many years to maintain our freedoms.... you forget all the frontier wars...and the war of 1812 .....we almost lost that war.... read your history books... it was just happenstance that we won.... it was a foolish military move that proved fatal...
don't forget how we got here... otherwise you will never understand what is truly going on over there......
- janne0
"I think the only logical thing to do is invade Iran
Stylus
(Jan 31 05, 10:27)"logistically it would be ideal now.
plenty of troops and strategic insight on both sides of Iran now. (Iraq/Afghanistan).
- janne0
"and in the 2 years we have had there......we have more murders in certain u.s. cities per capita then we have lost in the whole country combined...."
that would not suprise me indeed.
NRA has deeper roots in evil then anything.
- ********0
i-m-p-e-a-c-h-m-e-n-t
so simple
so right
now
- pablito0
"Bush is actually making a difference in the world"
"Kerry supporter, lover of French) sounds pretty angry"
wow.
Yes, thanks to Bush the world is more insecure now than 4 years ago.
And no, the fact that we oppose his policies has NOTHING to do with loving the french.
Ignorant American.
To much Fox news......
- Plusone0
8 million people voted.
that seems to make you all very angry.
- ********0
8 million people can be wrong.
- janne0
"Bush is actually making a difference in the world"
i think we can all agree on that part.
*cough
- vespa0
These guys are trolls and have no solutions. They fall back on insults and comedy to cover their ignorance.
Plusone
(Jan 31 05, 10:24)Perhaps you haven't read any of my other posts, Plusone. How can people be expected to come up with other "solutions" given our limited knowledge of the "facts" seeing as they are currently coming from the US army?
I'm glad 8 million people defied fear and voted yesterday, but it is much too soon to call this a "victory" for "freedom". That sort of talk is just another simplistic hollywood ending like the cry of "the war is over! we won!" that we heard in May 2003.
Please wait and see what comes of this before you're so quick to judge "a clear victory and step towards a civil society". Focussing on "what's next" is the only intelligent way to think, although our governments would like us to forget that.
- robotron3k0
well it should have been 27 million that voted, but that's democracy for you.
- janne0
Someone here mneiotned the possibility of a civil war breaking out.
could someone hook me up with a link to a definition of "civil war"?
cuz yesterday an "Iraq expert" claimed the civil war started already.
- Plusone0
"8 million people can be wrong.
dr_strangedub(Jan 31 05, 10:33)"
Quote of ignorance and denial. You live in Japan. None of us are there but the Iraqi people by way of vote have just said something that the media has been trying to cover. There is obvious success and it hurts you all to see it.
by the way mrdobolina and janne -
8 million Iraqis voted (70% of registered voters) and you said it can't happen. You said it wouldn't work. You said it wasn't safe.
The people who live there proved you wrong and youre still trying to define what it is they want. 8 million of them just told you but you wont listen.
- trobutta0
Howard Dean agrees with you guys..
"I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for, but I admire their discipline and determination." - Howard Dean
*que Michael Jackson - You are not Alone
- abizzyman0
the only solution at this point was elections, good for the iraqis that voted. But listening to people cry out freedom is making me sick.
mrdobolina
(Jan 31 05, 10:08)****
:)
What's wrong w/crying out freedom? Iraqies apparently want freedom and a new Gov given the fact that 60% of them showed up to vote. They're very brave - and I think that virtu was right in his original post - it's a historical day... these people stood up for their desire to be free, even while in fear of DEATH. Here in the states - people bitched and moaned over having to wait 3 hour waits in line... over there - they smiled (even saw a little dancing in the streets - maybe that was stock footage.. who knows ;) ).
Now - dob's solution is exactly what happened... great! If civil war breaks out - well, then you're a bunch of gifted prophets. :)
I just want some optimism and solutions - always finding something wrong w/a postive move forward (the elections) gets nothing done.
I realize most feel virtu shows up on NT to stir shit (which he / she does)... that's lame.
... step back from the fact that this is virtu's thread - and try and find some positivity here. All the negativity in the media is really bad for those who's lives are in harms way - the troops... the iraqies.. etc.
- janne0
Plsuone, have i said that?
I never had too much concerns about the voting itself, and am actually glad so many voted. 14,000 Iraqi's living here (NL)voted as well.
I am only wondering if this sudden forced change will have its desired effect once the govt. is supposed to keep control. I seriously wonder..
- ********0
the Iraqis are not children nor should they be treated as such. . .th
- ********0
*Gets all of the right wing brave bringers of freedom in on a conference call.
*Shouts cock.
*Hangs up.
Cheers MX.
- liquid0
give it up already....... I sometimes smack my head at your comments..... ever since the election...I seriously have to walk around with a red forehead all the time....
btw.....janne....it was me.....
civil war
n.
A war between factions or regions of the same country.yeah so you could say that it started already.... but then again since they really dont associate themselves with anyone it is considered terrorism.
I think more on an organized scale like the Kurds, Shiites, Sunnis, etc....