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- scarabin0
i think there are far worse things going on than this person's attempt at attention.
- -sputnik-0
if you use her logic and justifications, then why not mutilate or violate children?
she's an ass. period.
- scarabin0
because mice aren't humans.
- -sputnik-0
it would be easier to swlallow if she had an artists's statement accompanying her work.
scarabin
(oct 28 04, 10:00)-----
sorry scarabin, some things you don't justify with an "artist's statment". cruelty is cruelty, full stop.
- abizzyman0
"abizzyman, you use the word intellectual like it's a dirty word"
Kuz
(oct 28 04, 02:29)********************
Kuz... any word associated w/the defense of such disgusting inhumane treatment of any living creature for the mere purpose of 'art' and to advance 'intellectualizm' is dirty.
This is absolutely disgusting. There is NO intellectual value. It's a weak attempt at whatever the hell she's attempting.
- xaoscontrol0
I think sputnik was being rhetorical....but I agree..
people like that, I think they're insecure...they created drama when they were 12 in order to get attention from mommy.
- -sputnik-0
in most states, a pet dog has as many rights as any inanimate object in your house. sad, but true.
- vespa0
if you use her logic and justifications, then why not mutilate or violate children?
-sputnik-
(oct 28 04, 10:25)not sure you're understanding her logic. people don't kill or mutilate children guiltlessly as part of their diet or fashion requirements.
oh never mind. kitten satay stick anyone?
- -sputnik-0
you're right, they hurt children to satisfy some other pathetic need for gratification. that's totally different, right?
i know i'm being argumentative...it just pisses me off that she's killing these animals. there are millions of animals euthanized every day....if she wanted to make a point, she could have used their remains.
- scarabin0
that wouldn't have made controversy.
as far as we know, she has no point.
(because there is no artist's statement)
- vespa0
fair point -sputnik-. although according to her, that is part of her point. and i'm just playing devil's advocate too. i'm repulsed and interested at the same time.
- jevad0
"there are millions of animals euthanized every day....if she wanted to make a point, she could have used their remains"
exactly
- 7504130
I really cant see whats cruel about it. She hasnt tortured these animals, just put them to sleep. I am sure that the animals people stuff there faces with everyday have been treated alot more cruel.
People are upset because the animals she uses could have been there pets.
- -sputnik-0
yea, that's EXACTLY why we are against what she is doing.
how very perceptive of you.
- ********0
I've been talkng about death and meaninglessness of life all day. I am now in a very dark place.
abizzyman, you're wrong.
Everyone else, we've disucssed this to death. This thread is going in circles.
Jevad - i kill you mother fucker! :P
*takes machete and steps out into dark rainy london night, looking for stray cats and dogs"... here kitty kitty kitty!
(ps, i think the work is cool - winter, shut yer fanny)
- no_info0
art is a lie that reveals a truth
-picasso
I see the point about gaps in western morals, but the medium is the message and I have already seen this point put across far more effectivly without killing.
- abizzyman0
it's my opinion kuz... so I'm not wrong. :)
- 7504130
-sputnik-, so what you are saying is that if she would have used cows it would have been ok?
- story0
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- lowimpakt0
the point on hypocrisy is that millions of animals are bred and slaughtered in far more inhmane and cruel methods each and everyday in order to unneccesarily satisfy peoples appetites. these animals are also slaughtered for fashion products that millions of people adorn without people batting an eyelid. place a similar processin a different context and people are suddenly shocked. Im not arguing wheter it is right or wrong but it highlights a hypocrisy in peoples attitude to cruetly, death and attitudes to animals. end of story.
I can't believe this has gone on for so long and the discussion has just gone downhill to basicdom.