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- moxiedog
How much do London designers charge on average - hourly rate??
- smellvetica0
for what exactly?
- ********0
for a hand job in the stationary closet?
- moxiedog0
ha ha, sorry, no, I mean for designing print work, such as brochures or logos. Also for flat website designs (photoshop).
- ********0
all that work may involve the dispensing of hand jobs in the stationary closet.
- moxiedog0
I wondered why the letterheads were stuck together
- moxiedog0
anyone? is £40 the going rate? Someone told me £20 an hour. It sounds too low for all the hard work that goes into thinking up and designing ads, identity, brochures or flat designs for websites.
- ********0
i am not sure, £20 works out at £160/day, aim for £200 to £250.
But hey, i could be wrong
- waynepixel0
anyone? is £40 the going rate? Someone told me £20 an hour. It sounds too low for all the hard work that goes into thinking up and designing ads, identity, brochures or flat designs for websites.
moxiedog(sep 16 04, 03:23)
--------------------------------...Yep. Welcome to the design industry.
- moxiedog0
ahh, thanks for replying bottlerocket :)
- hUtCh0
£25-30 is standard for the first year or so...
But I'm a multimedia designer so what do I know?
- moxiedog0
and after the first year gaining experience it will obviously rise, makes sense. Thanks
- ********0
In theory....but it takes two, the designer wanting the higher pay, and the company wanting to pay it.
- moxiedog0
yes, true, but still it actually takes more than those 2....
Sometiems it is us designers who are to blame for the low rates we get paid, as some undercut others to get work.
It is not surprising that clients don't want to pay more then. Our worht is already confirmed in their eyes by the "going rate" that is cut by designers to beat the competition and get the work.
- ********0
would be great if we were all in a price-fising union? But were not, marekt forces and all that.
I hear handjobs in stationary closets are rising in price all the time
- normal0
Depends on the job/experience really. It also depends on whether or not you're bidding through an agency. As they normally charge you out at 300+ per day then give you 200-240 per day. If you don't have an agency 240-300 per day 30-35 an hour should be reasonable. Artworkers are a dime a dozen (creative directors words not mine) so it might actually be a bit lower for that, which sounds like what you're angling towards. I would hinge it as well on the length of the project long term projects 1 week plus you might go for a lower rate. Short-term a higher rate.
- moxiedog0
ha ha! that's where I'm going wrong then. Maybe i'll throw in some free lip work too.
But on a more serious note... YES, a union for designers would be good.
- ozhanlion0
what about working permit, does the client want something like that ?
- moxiedog0
ozhanlion - i don't know about working permits, i work in the UK so it's never been an issue.
normal - thanks, helpful. I'm not an artworker, but yes your boss it right, they are plentiful.
- ad10
look at this weeks mac user for some freelance tips inc pricing(17th september on cover)
depends on who the jobs for. i have far too many mates rates (print) jobs which are slowly being adjusted. having said that as their business flourishes thanks to your hardwork you can raise your prices.
tell your client to check prontaprint or other copyshop's prices for layout / design - they'll soon be happy paying you that £60 an hour.
- Nairn0
How much do London nurses get paid per hour?
If you're having to ask 'how much per hour?' you should get your head out of your arse and stop hoping for it to be anywhere near £60. 'All the hard work' indeed.