anti-gay marriage
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- mrdobolina0
froww, at least science tries to find reasonable answers and proof, rather than everything just being 'created' by some unknown God that can't be proven and changes from culture to culture.
- fingercore0
No, my female dog humps my male dog to show dominance.
A male deer does not stick it's penis inside a male deer's asshole to show dominance. As far as I know.
- lowimpakt0
How could you prove that something doesn't exist?
Mimio
(aug 4 04, 13:39)
------------------------------now this is getting interesting......
- ribit0
"...to embrace an idea that states that cognizant reasoning life sprouted from nothing."
That isnt what science states.
"Despite 0 evidence"
There is evidence.
"...despite the lack of logic that complex design occurs though there is no designer"
According to science, there is a natural design process at work.
"...despite it being in conflict with scientific laws"
it isnt.
"...and despite the complete lack of any transitional forms between species?"
there is.
- ********0
no one is marring anyone for what hole they stick it in. If they are that marriage surely will not last. The are getting married to celebrate and make know a loving union between them... love is not the hole whether you own that hole or stick it.
- fingercore0
puter-
If that was in response to my post, I was simply trying to point out that homosexuality, at least the physical aspect, is not limited to humans.But in terms of proving the existance of Moses, Jesus, etc, it doesn't matter. It has no relevance to the lives we live today the societies and cultures that exist today. This is something that religious people will never understand. Spirituality is one thing as it's generally YOUR spirituality with god or nature or whatever. But one's belief in Jesus should never dictate the law for others.
- xaoscontrol0
fingercore:
animals lack reasoning....they can't do such a thing out of anything other than dominance
- xaoscontrol0
ribit, who's to say that 'God' or 'a god' wasn't at the heart of that natural design process?
- ********0
animals are more intelligent than humans
- Mimio0
Some animals can reason, problem solve, feel emotion...by the way humans are animals too.
- mrdobolina0
Xaos, who's to say that 'God' or 'a god' was at the heart of that natural design process?
- TransFatty0
"man is a bad animal."
-Gyson
- ribit0
Whos to say God created the whole universe and then let it do its thing. Whos to say He didnt?
- xaoscontrol0
that may very well be the case...afterall, they aren't the ones that have to work to sustain an everyday life...and if it came down to it, the chances of my cat or dog surviving in the wild are a helluva lot better then they are for me if a natural disaster took our home
- Brian220
"it's much more reasonable and less "crackpottish" if you will, to embrace an idea that states that cognizant reasoning life sprouted from nothing. "
So, consciousness can only spring from same. Where did that first consciousness come from? This is the same line of reasoning that leads people to conclude that the Egyptians couldn't have built the pyramids by themselves. They must have been taught. But who taught the teachers. There's a big logical problem with first cause arguments."Despite 0 evidence, despite the lack of logic that complex design occurs though there is no designer, despite it being in conflict with scientific laws and despite the complete lack of any transitional forms between species?"
Here's where we part company. To me believing that little green men built the pyramids (metaphysical explanation) is more far fetched than saying we built them through our own intelligence. Likewise it makes more sense to say that we got here through natural processes than that some supernatural being put us here. We understand how the brain works and how peptides affect emotion, we have a fossil record of hominids going back millions of years. A record of animals that become more like us as time goes by. We haven't recorded a speciation event. True. But we've only been looking for a short time.On the other hand there's no evidence for any kink of supernatural being described by any religion. In fact science has systematically refuted religious claims for some time. The earth isn't the centre of the universe nor are we resting on a giant turtle shell.
Archeologists may have found places described in the bible but that only backs up the bible as a historical account. A few ruins doesn't prove the existence of any supernatural beings.
- ********0
remember folks this is about whether or not a union based on love should be recognized by the state but about GOD verses Einstein.
Take your Jesus' verses the Dinosaurs to another thread.
- Mimio0
puter,
You're moving the discussion backwards, we've already been there.
- Mal0
- mrdobolina0
well said, Brian
- gelund0
If supporters of the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage really want what biblical law prescribes, here’s what the proposed bill would include:
Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union a between one man and one or more women. (Genesis 2:24; II Samuel 3, 2-5).
Marriage shall not impede a man’s right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Samuel 5:13; I Kings 11:3, II Chronicles 11:21).
Marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deuteronomy 22, 13-31).
Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Genesis 24:3; Numbers 25; 1-9; Ezra 9:12, Nehemiah 10:30).
Since marriage is for life, neither this constitution nor the constitution of any state nor any state or federal law shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut. 22:19; Mark 10:9).
If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother’s widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner determined by the law. (Genesis 38: 6-10, Deuteronomy 25: 5-10).