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- lowimpakt
'You've got a President who says global warming is a hoax, and across the Potomac river you've got a Pentagon preparing for climate wars. It's pretty scary when Bush starts to ignore his own government on this issue'
- rasko40
this is awesome, I am totally gonna be some kind of snake pliskin dude, or maybe leader of the twelve monkeys.
- moth0
I'm sorry, but; "Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years" is crap. This person has no understanding of geology.
- kodap0
who ever has still credits for bush, is dumber than him.
- moth0
Well. I would say he's not all wrong on this. Global warming is not as dire as reality dictates...
Half of what we're dealing with is just part of a natural cycle of events....
- lowimpakt0
moth, work case projection - not fact. Rasko picked up on what I was getting at.
Truth is noone can say with full conviction what is going to happen - thats where the precautionary principle comes into policy making.....
- lowimpakt0
*worst case scenario
- moth0
well ok. I get your point...
But 20 years in climate change is really no time at all.... I don't think a report like this should shock anyone... but I hope bush does act... War on Weather... hehe.
- lowimpakt0
no shock just funny predictions of the sci-fi lawlessness of it all.
but we are seeing the effects of climate change but the debate is still out as to the anthropogenic influence on it.
- kafeen330
bush and the environment is like milk and orange juice in the same glass. in the past, he has proposed drilling in many of our national parks, reversal of environmental laws that have a great effect on the marsh lands, and pulled back on the industrial emissions requirements.
do not forget... though these may be paranoia reports of future wastelands... what we do today has a great affect on the future. obvious statement... but unfortunately, bush is short-sighted.
- v3nt0
moth. if you read all the reports closely the reason why brittian was singled out as an example is because it is kept warm by the gulf steam, which is dependant on freshmelt water mixing with salt water.
As the ice caps are melting faster each year the gulf stream could change its course; leaving brittian without any protection from the atlantic. This could then give it a similar winter too sweden, iceland... and it could happen in 20 years. Most of the manmade global warming has only become powerful enough to effect the environment in the last 80 years.
Another 20 years of increased population, fossil fuel usage... could emulate the last 100 years of global warming. Consider things like the worlds population has doubled in the last 50 years.
- iSolve0
i love these threads.... :)
- v3nt0
did you hear about that 20 or so whales that swam from great depths to the surface really fast?
they go the bends and the bodies where found beached with 5 inch holes in the flesh where the built up nitrogen had blown it apart! they where escaping a submarine testing a new kind of sonar which the whales are sensative too...
- iSolve0
was bush driving the sub?
- moth0
v3nt... I do know all this. But the stuff you are churning out still might as well be wacky theory... it science giving all their bad predictions.
I not saying we shouldn't do something, but all these claims need a pinch of salt.
- loudubs0
burning things is bad.
burning oil is worse.
burning bridges to the future of our 'national youth', and i don't mean the children we keep irresponsibly having, but our youthful desire to be a positive reflection of the Great Experiment we are as Americans
is bad.George Bush's puppeteers are bad.
simple
- vwsung18t0
you are all scaring me. i wish i never read this thread
- v3nt0
pinch of salt; cut the public transport funds 5 billion and build more roads with it to make . no body takes it seriously.
Its a fact that sea levels are rising 7mm a year. its not much, but 20 years of it is... The thames barrier that protects london from flooding cannot cope with the increase and is going to have to be rebuilt 30 years earlier than expected.
Venice is going to build damns around its entire perimeter because in 20 years it wont be able to cope with the water rises.
Its not whacky theory. we have got serious problems waiting for us. But in the meatime we'll just carryon watchin tv, going to work...
