Apple is evil

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  • jox
  • save0

    hmmn...

  • jox0

    ha, nice profile pic, save <-

  • save0

    thanks ;P

  • unknown0

    please...

    get over it ... you can go steal and steal all you like- there are endless programs that are out there to help and let you do it- and you will and they will-

    Apple introduced an OPTION get it an OPTION AN OPTION an OPTION. They comply and that's why they are able to offer 500,000 songs. You do like the OPTION then don't use it. Its an alternative, and a historical moment in technology.

    Now let's all go back to the moonwalk being filmed in hollywood and the Alien Autopsy please...

  • fate0

    It's not about the option. It's about fear tactics. Sorry you missed the whole point of that link :(

  • ********
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    Apple is prettier Microsoft.

  • fate0

    MrDinky makes a very valid point.

  • FrogPond0

    Jeez, I love it when people try to make a coherent point about something that’s completely inane. First of, Apple is not evil. They don’t run over people in trucks, stave children of food, hit seals in the head with clubs or dump oil into the oceans, the make and market computers. If anyone with a working understanding of Pepsi’s terrible advertising for the past 10 years would note, this ad is a pile of shit, just like the rest of them, and now because it has the precious Apple name and product, by virtue, Apple is bad.

    Wrong. The ad is bad. Its directed poorly, its a bad concept, it has a terribly annoying girl cast in the lead (sure she got pinched for downloading music great, wasn’t there a better way of conveying this message?) and the music (Green Day) isn’t coinciding with the message (“I fought the law and the law won” doesn’t inspire me to drink the product and then go download music). This ad it TOTALLY disjoint from anything Apple would have done on their own, and this is dead obvious. They are simply a partner in the promotion, and if someone was paying my company millions of dollars, I may not care all that much if they write bad copy, use bad actors and product notoriously shitty ads. Its a great promotion, with an awful piece of creative pushing it along.

    The good thing (for Apple fans) is that Apple will only gain from this move. They will make money, people will use their products and services in the promotion, and hopefully buy more products and use more of their services. They are not strong arming anyone, they are not the bad guy, the RIAA is doing all of that, under the guise that we are ripping off the artists that they hold so sacred because we share music. Ask any band member of any band that sells less than 100,00 units of their albums, and they will more than likely say something to the effect of “File sharing takes away some sales, but it also reaches more people than we could through traditional channels so it evens out somewhat”. Ask Mariah Carey, and you will get a different story. They have such a debt of video, marketing, and press expenses that they need to recoup any of the lost sales that file sharing MAY take away. At the same time these are the acts that the record companies are losing money on because they are encouraging artists to have one or two hits per disc, and filling the rest of the disc with junk, and expecting us to buy it. They are the bad guys. If anything, Apple is assisting us in letting us win the tracks we want off the albums we want. I would be more inclined to own an album of great music all the way through (i.e. Radiohead’s OK Computer) than something that has only has a few good tracks (i.e. The new Britney Album). Apple can only work with the stipulations for paying the bands their cut of the $.99 that the record company gets for their track. The labels are screwing the bands, the labels make up the RIAA, and the RIAA is trying to screw us. Its that simple.

    Support live music, support musicians, and be smarter in your critique of bad advertising.

  • sweetasbro0

    Has anyone complained about the price of cola in general? I mean, how dare they charge this much for sugar-fizzy-water?

    Oh, I forgot, you can't download Pepsi or Coca Cola for free anywhere

    get the drift?

  • ********
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    well said FrogPond

    (i love it when the critical thinking is done for me)

    thanks ;)

  • ********
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    apple is not much different from any other global company.

    they are here to make money.

    simple...

  • Lop0

    http://www.downhillbattle.org/it…

    apple is a joke, people worshipin' apple are sad

    it's a sad joke

  • kpl0

    it's a pepsi ad, for god's sake.

    not an apple ad.

    if they're going to make quibbles about small facts, then they should be careful about their dishonesty.

  • ********
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    Apple did pay part of that ad, pepsi didnt pay Apple for it. Anyway, its wrong to have this young girl dinking pepsi, sitting infront of a giant Mac and then pretend the ad is about anything other then just that, selling thoose products.

    I dont think Apple as a whole are evil but that ad is.

  • pascii0

    it's all about money

  • kpl0

    evil is grabbing 11 year old white girls in florida then murdering them.

    this isn't close to being evil. It's not even deceptive.

  • mrdobolina0
  • unknown0

    Here are a bunch of loser kids who got caught stealing music off the internet... so okay they settled out of court and were never really "arrested" (OH THE LIES!!!) now they are in a commerical that is shown in front of zillions of people, the get a paycheck and fame for that. How fucking horrible. One day your a crook and now your famous... those evil bastards!

    The RIAA is out to find a way to prevent the "youth" from stealing music. They are trying to fight back. They used these "WILLING" kids as an example. Scare tatics ...sure... so are AIDS commmericals. The point is to highlight the OPTION. Pay instead of steal ... where a condom istead of AIDS ... it's a freakin commercial for soda.
    You can cry cry cry unjustice all you like.. the more you cry the more they sell. It only helps the marketing. Apple has fake "switcher" commericals, hundreds of site that claim they suck, forums like this one all over the net bitching about how "unjust" they are, itunes and ipod complaints and people who dedicate HOURS to make anti web sites like the one that was posted here (man get a freakin life). Bad press is good press. We dion't sit here yappin about Compaq and the RIO players , or even the Walmart music store, Musicmatch, or Napster- because they have no impact... another pea in the pod-

    Apple came up with an OPTION and ALTERNATIVE choice that the artists seem to be supporting just fine. The only ones complaining or kids who rather steal and think it's all "LIES" cause free was better. 99 cents is too expensive yet a bottle of water cost $1.19 and Potatoe chips cost even more.
    Downhill Battle dot com can bitch all they want but they offer no alternative except "IT's EVIL MAN" okay then... go do something... offer a non- evil alternative and call BONO to help you. You rather buy CD's from ebay then GO AHEAD. No one freakin cares GO AHEAD!!!!!! Stop wasting time trying to get famous HATING Apple and making websites about it and go changge the world and feed the artists- give them all the money and support you think they deserve.

    Fucking cry babies.... when YOU come up with a better OPTION and offer it to the world, when your in a major label band and have shit to say about your profits then I'll listen. Until then your just a punk ass loser looking for UFO's in the desert.

  • jrust0

    It's called advertising. It's what many of us sit at computers every day and design.

    On a related topic, if I hear one more person say that this is nothing more than a shameless promotion for Apple and Pepsi, I'm going to scream. Yes, it's a promotion. It's an advertisement. Apple and Pepsi need to make money just as much as everyone else does.

    I agree with the previous statement that it's nothing more than an option. How many people are going to only buy Pepsi now so that they can get a free song? Some might for the novelty of it all, but most people won't buy a drink that they absolutely hate. It's not like Apple joined with Jolt Cola or something else that most people don't drink on a regular basis to promote a new product that people don't know. People already know Pepsi. They're drinking something they're familiar with, and if they like, they can get a free song online LEGALLY as well. Don't want to go through the hassle of downloading iTunes just for one song? Don't do it, then. Throw the cap away, and quit bitching.

    The ad is badly done. I'll grant anyone that. But to say that Apple is exploiting children? I'm relatively confident that the children were paid to be in the ads. You don't want to be known as someone who's done something illegal? Don't take the paycheck. "Prosecuted" isn't a great word. They've still done something illegal, and they got caught. iTunes (along with many other options, like buying a CD) gives a legal option. Don't like the option? Then don't change yourself. There have always been options offered. You like a song, you buy the CD. I, for one, am happy to pay $.99 for one song. I usually buy a CD and only like a couple of tracks off it anyway. iTunes allows me to legally download, and save money. Kudos to them.

  • atomica0

    They came up with this option and alternative? Man you bought into there rigamarole....

    There were pay per mp3 sites before itunes. argh.