Apple is evil
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- chug0
In the grand scope of this these arguments don't really matter.
Exercise your right to critical thinking and ... don't ... buy ... the ... products... if you think they're so disagreeable. I know I don't (Pepsi that is .. a Mac is a machine, plain and simple).
By the way, "evil" doesn't even come close to describing what Apple is doing (Pepsi on the other hand, who sells products to human-rights-criminal dictators in Third World countries is another story). Don't use this as an argument in your Mac vs. PC flame war. That's getting old.
- coop0
Didn't all the kids who got busted for downloading use Kazza on a PC?
Isn't Mac a much safer platform for stealing music and isn't Coke much better than Pepsi?
I'm so confused!
- lowimpakt0
"Exercise your right to critical thinking and ... don't ... buy ... the ... products... if you think they're so disagreeable. I know I don't (Pepsi that is .. a Mac is a machine, plain and simple).
"http://www.usatoday.com/tech/new…
- ********0
Apple is evil, water is transparent, Bush is a twat...
Facts of life.
- ********0
think for yourself.
question authoirty.
- kpl0
question everything. including authority and people who say "question authority."
- ********0
ha!
- lowimpakt0
question yourself
- ********0
tim leary & tool:
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening,
terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness;
chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.
- Tyrone0
the real debate here should be how GAY is this debate.
Apple, Pepsi, RIAA, evil.....whatever.
- ********0
Apple isnt evil there just realy realy gay. sorry if i affended any gay people , but they realy are.
love,
dr.satan
- Chip0
The main joke here is America and it's pathetic legal system.
sad.
- cinder0
I agree that the ad pretty much lies about what happened to these people.
And I don't understand how that crappy Green Day cover relates to the situation at all.
There was no law involved - just a bunch of lawyers suing with little merit.I think we can all agree that Apple and it's ad agency just makes better commercials.
They probably should have handled it on this one.
And made that girl who mumbles in that weird accent to do a few more takes until you can actually understand what she's saying.
- enobrev0
don't care much...
what i do want to comment on is this whole, who's ad agency put it out thing, who takes 'blame' for the ad.
take the blindfold off for a second. if you really think a company that controls the resale price of every product they sell to the penny didn't sign off on the ad in full, you don't belong in the marketing business.
They agreed to the ad and they agreed to the message. ALSO, the FACT that the kids settled out of court says that they probably couldn't even afford the settlement. So a reseller for your opponent offers to help pay your settlement, rather tahn forcing mom and dad to remortgage the house. what do you do?
Come on... Quit defending the companies. I understand they make pretty toys, and I understand you like them a lot. I like them too. But getting all mad in their defense is distasteful. They WILL fuck you over for a dollar, and they most likely enjoyed doing it to the kids, or even worse, didn't even notice.
- jevad0
"They WILL fuck you over for a dollar, and they most likely enjoyed doing it to the kids, or even worse, didn't even notice. "
AMEN to that. Business is in it for business - if they can make money doing it - they will squeeze every cent out of it.
- kpl0
i'll defend corporations over half-assed, badly reasoned, asinine, hyperbolic, and hysterical nonsense. Plus, he needs to read 1984, not the cliff notes version of it.
The critique of the ad is over semantics. aka, stupid shit. I don't need a lawyer telling me what a world of difference a civil and a criminal trial entails..I know the difference. but what is the practical difference of being sued by the RIAA and being charged by a prosecutor, especially on the side of these kids, and to the general lay public?
If pepsi/apple decided to use correct verbage, 1/2 of this guy's movie is irrelevant. Now, if the RIAA is becoming a quasi-governmental agency, what responsibility does Apple have to state that? The fact is that Congress has made the RIAA into one. If they didn't pass the DMCA, the RIAA wouldn't be able to sue like they did and not get laughed out of court, and the costs of defense would be MUCH lower.
The point is that the critique is mostly against the RIAA, and this guy sticks a mac with big brother in it without making the connection from RIAA to Apple. I'm sorry, but if Apple decides to sell music, that makes them as bad as the RIAA? This guy needs to sharpen his (crappy) writing skills ("words fail me"... hah) and get away from propaganda to make his point.
- kpl0
i'm more pissed about this guy's abuse of 1984 and his usage of propaganda technics (write a fucking essay, you illiterate sob) than him messing with apple, personally.
- enobrev0
well, unfortunately, it is a matter of semantics when the topic is in regard to law. That's why our contracts are 4 - 12 pages long and not "I do work for you for $x and you pay me, per spitting on our hands and shaking."
It is propaganda at the cost of a few minors, and I personally hope the kids' families made more than enough to pay off their settlements considering they could have issues with employment in the future if they are thought to have been legally prosecuted vs. paying off a technologically outdated group in full scramble mode.
I'd imagine these families have signed off their rights to sue in persuit of a means of paying the labels off, and hopefully they at least knew what the commercial was going to portray before they signed away.
Seriously, nobody truly deserves to have 'PROSECUTED' stamped across their face to millions of viewers world wide for 'breaking' a law that not everyone is quite sure is enforcable. Especially when they never entered a court room, but instead chose to pay to avoid such things.
- kpl0
but we're dealing with an ad, which is of the court of public opinion, not a court of law.
The copy in the pepsi ad was closer to truth, even if it wasn't semantically true, than outright lie.
- enobrev0
yeah.. matter of opinion..
fuck it. :)