Tracing cheating?
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- yoshi_pc0
from Chasing Amy:
COLLECTOR
Hey - don't get all testy with him
just because you have a problem with your station in life.BANKY
I'm secure with what I do.COLLECTOR
Then say it - you're a tracer.BANKY
(grabbing Little Kid's book)
How should I sign this?LITTLE KID
(grabs book back)
I don't want you to sign it, I want
the guy that draws Bluntman and
Chronic to sign it. You're just a
tracer.ha ha
- vena0
what's a nubian?
- yoshi_pc0
Always some white boy gotta
invoke `the holy trilogy'! Bust this - those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down - even in a galaxy far, far away. Check this shit. You got cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy - blond hair, blue eyes. And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian God.
- unknown0
"...because then it's totally your own work. I mean, two designers could take fancy to an imge on getty and then trace it... do you really want someone else having an illy exactly the same as yours in their portfolio? "
so everybody shopping at getty can't be original? everybody traces a picture differently, obviously!
ha
- unknown0
well, that's untill designers traces other designers traces. and than: welcome in the desert of reality. it's a bit becoming baudrillard-esque i might add.
- vena0
i suppose y'all are gonna start discussing the merits of sampling in music next, eh?
- jox0
interesting topic!
- unknown0
well it's an odd discussion because intertextuality (refering to references and contextual references) is as normal as we are. so any discussion about this could be very well a discussion about why did you use the letter a?
- kodap0
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I guess I'm also a cheater.
as Andy Wharol was..
- unknown0
warhol is an excellent example actually.
prev post wasn't entirely correct. it's odd because intertextuality has been culturally accepted more and more over the years and will be even on a level we cannot comprehend right now. therefore a discussion about let's say sampling, or tracing is a bit outdated.
- jox0
Well, if that's cheating - wouldn't you cheat if you use a font as well?
"if you want to make it your own, use the pencil tool, foo!"
And I seriously doubt that it's "just" tracing involved. Bet it takes a while longer than that.
On a completely different topic, Kodap's stuff rules!
- sexypixel0
its still creating something, no matter how you look at it.
- kodap0
I'd sell a much higher price a piece made by hand rather than digitally.
that's how it works generally in the world of "illustrating".
Copy/pastes must be done with lots of careful.
/on a side note, I love Arthur Mount's illustrations because somehow it's more captive than the original photographs...
- Blofeldt0
Have you got a Quark hot key of intertextuality rabattski?
- runDMB0
Congrats to rabattski for managing to get Baudrillard into the discussion.
I had a tutor at art school who used to grind teapots into dust. He'd mix the dust with acrylic medium to make a rudimentary paint and then he'd use it to paint a picture of the teapot that he'd ground down.
- unknown0
a quark hotkey for intertextuality? :) that would be the bomb though. you know, at some point it wouldn't surprise me if something like that would excist. you know like a plugin where you just have your necessary stuff on stage and you use the plugin to let's say choose a x-ref with beatles, warhol and 80's typography. and it's ready.
- solmo0
haha vector artist
funny
I'm a vector artist... wait, no.. Im a pixelartist
Verry interesting topic tough
- unknown0
lol rundmb.
a) it's a sport to always try to get baudrillard involved in a discussion :)
b) what your art tutor did is really really really really cool. very nice concept / thought behind it. and very ... well you know who.
- runDMB0
He kind of over did it in the end I think, he used to make standard canvas stretchers, cut a piece of the stretched canvas out, pulp what he'd cut out, mix it with PVA glue and then paint it in an arbitrary shape back onto the remaining canvas. You could just about see where the canvas had been painted back on.
To answer the original thread, who gives a toss how you make an image. It's what the end product looks like and how it communicates the required message/idea that matters. If you need a realistic looking image, but you don't want a photograph look, why not trace an appropriate image. If you did a painstaking reproduction without tracing, would anyone know or care when they saw the result?
- Abby_Someone0
l'OH ma qualité !!
....Ignore NT for a while and you miss out!
Brooke - If you are even in the Pittsburgh area I'd love to show you my "stippling" technique....