sotware piracy
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- Peter0
"I'm pretty much legal on software-- but the fonts are hard to give up "
paulrand
(nov 24 03)uhoh, you've summoned the (hairy) beast. The Vena guy should be here any minute...
- unknown0
you know exactly what
- jevad0
You know - every fucking copy we have at work of DW and Flash MX, along with Final Cut Pro, is dodgy.
Now, for a company that is making profits into the hundreds of thousands a year - that is just plain wrong.
And they know it.
Anything to save a buck.
Me, personally, I have no problem 'borrowing' my friends MX Studio installation disk and using a keygen - but for stuff like CuteFTP and ACDSEE- I pay for it.
- Aliyah0
Nope sorry... You have the upperhand on this one.
- CyBrainX0
Is it really stealing if the source is still there? If no one is missing something, there is no loss. I'm not asking that rhetorically. I'm just not sure on this one.
Also, if you're not making money on the programs, that my make a difference too.
I'm quite the wuss on this issue. I'm usually quite opinionated.
- qaddisin0
i wonder how much money those companies are really losing by a couple of people pirating their software. on the other hand most firms and edu's have to have proper licenses and that costs a lot, then the single users here and there. use until you can buy your own. i guess :)
- ribit0
and here I am paying full price for the CS upgrade... oh well... I guess it keeps you guys in software too... could some of you help me pay my rent though?
I once saw Photoshop copies from Hong Kong... they didnt trim the CD insert sleeve very well, the funny thing is you could see a bit of the next page, and it wasnt even another Adobe app..it was Corel Painter or something (who would have thought those two companies share printing facilities!)
- qaddisin0
yo, ribit your funny. lol
- ikbenvanrijn0
do you say arrrrgh me matey qaddisin?
- qaddisin0
yeah i do. ikbenvanrijn. but some software i own like my macromedia products. and i don't get to buy the latest and greatest photoshop and 3d apps. too bad :(
- dessalles0
i guarantee you that its in the best interests of some companies to look the other way when they see pirated versions of their software on the internet.
photoshop is the institution it is today because of piracy.
millions of people would never learn how to use photoshop without piracy, and as a result, thousands of more copies are sold when they get good at it.
- dessalles0
on another note...
the question is not so much wether software piracy is stealing, as much as it is a question of wether stealing pirated software is immoral.
and i don't think you'll be answering that question in this thread.
- sparker0
you think that a "few" users pirating software doesn't matter....it isn't a 'few', it is thousands...multiply that by the price of a single software package and the company loses hundreds of thousands of dollars each year.
anyone who believes that pirating software doesn't hurt developers and companies is niave to the point of being stupid, and lacks even the most basic professional maturity.
even just taking the number of respondants in this thread who think stealing is ok, and adobe has losts thousands of dollars.
hell, if just 20 nt users pirate adobe cs, that is over 10K the company lost. and, that is less than half of a percent of pirated software use in the world.
it's stealing. it hurts companies and fellow developers/designers.
if a company loses all it's money due to things like piracy (and it has happened before...game companies, software companies, development firms...etc) then not only does the company go under, but all those developers and designers are out of work.
beside that, how is it that people here can justify stealing software but whine like children about who ripped who?
- vena0
"beside that, how is it that people here can justify stealing software but whine like children about who ripped who?"
that was beautiful :) shawn, you're my new nt favourite person.
- unknown0
paying for warez? i've never heard that one before.
- vena0
danke. i think you win for cleanliness though. :)
life is fun, though work is a bit slow... hence my semi-returned status here :) how about you?
- sparker0
eh. swamped with work. client work and office work. i'll trade you for a while. :) i'm sick of 14 hour days.
yea. i gave up trying to ever finish something public. although, i have something in the works that may actually see light for once. it's mainly email and secure back-end stuff on my domains.
the plan is to put together an open-source design/development lab to build a pc/console game from the ground up...open to anyone and everyone.
i have a couple of story lines to use and i've been reading up on my opengl and gtk programming. initially, i want to offer it on linux, but ports to windows and os x would be nice.
:)
it seems we've hijacked this thread.