digital vs film
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- wadafa0
i like the using them in combination, scanning negs, fucking with them in ps, print it as a transparency then do a dark room print or take a poloroid and do an emulsion transfer or something...i think digital needs the organic quality of natural materials but you can't beat the precision and control of digital...use em both, together...
- Meeklo0
I work in a photography studio, with some of the biggest aviation photographers in the world, these guys have been shooting for at least 30 years, professionally.
Since they tried digital, jokes about film photographers started to float around. they all said its like living the learning process from 30 years ago, again.
And lets not even talk about reducing costs, I like both but I think people that choose film over it its just a matter of personal attachement. It happens all the time with evolution, vhs to dvd, tapes to cds, b&w to color.Remember when color cameras came out? There was people that said if you shooting color its not proffesional, its not artistic, its souless.
If you get a good professional camera you will match, and do better things that with film, faster and with less light. there is still some problems going on like with the wide angle lenses but companies are fixing everything as we speak, in a few years, film will be only used by a few, if technology lets you do better things, why not take advantage of it? I worked for a year in a skate magazine, they forced their staff to switch to digital why? it will save them over 20 grand a year. You can tell if an action shoot went good or bad just by looking it in a monitor, right there.
what do you think?
- loaf0
I love shooting film.. mostly 4x5 and shooting medium format.. but i think with advent of digi ..photographers are becoming more of image makers than just photographers.. I proof everything with digi.. my clients ask for digital from me.. I have to talk them into using film.. digi kind of frees me up a little.. i just shoot and shoot.. I get that playful feeling that i first felt when i started shooting.. mainly it is just easier on my bank account.. I just wish there was a prosumer version of a digiback for my mamyia rb and my 4x5's.. i would never shoot film again.. or maybe i just need to get better jobs so i can afford nicer equipment..
- loudubs0
because of digital, they're becoming lazy, self immolating, imitating shitheads with no respect for religious practices
and far too many walk with cameras these days
- meok0
Imacon 22 MP digital back is the answer. So I heard.
- ribit0
Of course the problem with digital is the proliferation of 'photographers'... even at the press days at the auto shows you can no longer get back to get a decent long shot, because everyone who would previously not have bothered with shooting the event now has their silly little digicam in front of them 3 feet from the car...drives me crazy.
- Carty0
back to basics... film is the way... its like standard car vs automatic.
obviously its easier to drive an automatic... but would you want to race with it?
digital has made every fucker with $300 bucks a photographer.
- Mimio0
The general public used film long before they used digital cameras. People have a love affair with making images, you can't blame them for that. Besides, the more amatuer photographs are out there, the better the professional stuff looks.
- loudubs0
nah, the more amateur photographers (if you can even call many of the digi-youth that_) are only clotting up to form the next generation of the Moron Media Conglomerate
- unknown0
thats true... about the kids with digital cameras....
BUT there are kids with digicams that are producing some sick shit.... give them a HASSLEHOLF...lol ;)
and they might produce some ill shit.most of the tecniques that I use on my digi is duped on my 35 mm.
i use to digital for concept work mostly... and if i like what i get on the digital.. then i go and shoot it on analog.
now... some shots are spur of the moment, and cannot be recreated.. and for those you have to be at the right place right time....
iim inlove with my minolta.
i have a 70mm fisheye on that sucker, and mannnn its addictive.i guess it depends. for now, you cant beat the quality of film.
something about the quality and look of digital STLL isnt there....
and i dont know if it will ever be there...
:)
- Mimio0
Digital imagery will no doubt surpass photochemical imagery. It's only a matter of time.
- mrdobolina0
mimio, I think what these guys are saying is that without any post-production done to it, analog always looks deeper and better than an unadulterated digital image.
is that right?
- Mimio0
And I would agree with them. I was mostly commenting on Derek's remark about the future of digital images. To me, it's just easy to see that digital equipment will be able to do more and produce better quality in the future.
- tc_fisher0
we should not give kids Hasselholf's. This world only gets one david hasselholf. And that's almost too much to handle. He sings ya know...
Give 'em a hasselblad. That would work better. but kinda pricey.
And on the subject of kids... Fuck yeah, that they all get to shoot. They all get to create. digital or analog. who cares.
you know why? because content is king.
which i'm sure, i'm hopefull this idea of content was brought up earlier in the 30-somthin other posts... it's just like those kids in forums debating the fucking Fstops on a nikon to a canon or the computer heads that don't buy a computer to make things with because they can't figure out if they should get the xxxmghz one now or wait for the rumored UBERbox coming in out in 1 month to 3 years, that was found on that site with that guy.
i want content. and the only way to get that content is people, lots of people getting off their asses with their disposable camera or their new wiz bang Canon Digital SLR and going out there and fucking making something that will bring about some emotion in me.
i want a world of creatives. i want a world where everyone has a camera. a paintbrush. a typewriter or a wacom tablet. where the thought process of - i want to be a stock broker so bad i can taste all of that coin and rich semen right now! doesn't happen.
Really. who wouldn't want more artists.
analog or digital still gets printed out on film paper. what matters is what's on that film paper. the content. god damn it's about the content and not the tool makin' it.
- tfs__mag0
tc_fisher is right... no more needs to be said.
- Mimio0
Yes, but the thread is about two mediums, not whether content is more important than equipment. Nice sentiments, just the wrong thread.
- ribit0
"analog or digital still gets printed out on film paper"
Not neccessarily. What's so good about paper?
Save the trees.
- tc_fisher0
'Yes, but the thread is about two mediums, not whether content is more important than equipment. Nice sentiments, just the wrong thread'
exactly. this is the wrong thread. this thread shouldn't exist. are we technicians or are we artists?
we don't need threads like this. seriously, what is the difference between this topic of digital and analog to the topic of butter or margarine.
we need threads to figure out how to better our work, our work ethic. we need threads that comment and criticize, not to review the latest carl zeiss lens or how shitty the nikon plastic bodies are.
seriously. it's a waste of time to wax poetic on digital and analog. show me a fucking portfolio or a gallery show. don't show me your fucking tackle box.
- loaf0
I have noticed a few comments in regard to people who use digi camera's lazy? why? no different that some hack that use's all the program settings on there fancy autofocus 35mm? what is the difference.. I have did my stint developing my own film.. printing my own film.. I work as photographer.. most of my film goes to a lab... this makes me lazy then.. .. ??? how many pro shooters have the time to do all of their own printing and developing??? maybe I need to start making my own glass plate negatives.. ??? everything that i do is retouched on the computer these days.. why would I not want to make my work flow a little easier.. I agree.. it is all about the Image.. not the medium..