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- ********0
the emulators out there are pretty shite too
- 8dot30
it sounds like they want to use intel exclusively which would not cause any competition between amd and intel which is what has boosted pc performance and price.
so i see apple using intel and charging the same amount for their computers.
- was_gdiddy0
"then again, macs can already run windows with vitual pc installed...but it runs it slowly, and in a window." - kpl
Wrong! You can run VPC fullscreen (which speeds the video up a bit) and it isn't that slow on a newer machine. On an original iMac,you may have problems. I have a TiBook and it runs just fine. The best way to test websites for PC's. I can have XP, 98, ME and OS X all running at the same time sucka's!
G.
- jox0
I don't quite get it, with the fact that two competitors use basically the same components and differs a LOT when it comes to pricing.
So it all comes down to the OS then?
- kpl0
apple controls everything. it makes sure the components works and works the way it wants to.
with windows, it's anarchy.
that's the difference.
- jox0
but apparently, at least one PC component passed the test :)
- ********0
I have never met a mac head that new what they were talking about when it came to computers. KPL is one of them..all this "anarchy" gives a machine that is a helluva alot cheaper, and beats the shit out of anything mac can throw at it.
And no doubt he will always talk about the future macs...well I dont care, cause I need a machine now
- kpl0
gdiddy,
you're used to the performance hit with an emulator. I've tried virtual pc one of the newer power macs and they're not worth the trouble, imho. if you really want to get work done with windows software, better to get a windows box.
- jpea0
ok, first:
1. keep in mind that it's John Dvorak, who has predicted many things including the sure downfall of apple, which hasn't happened btw
2. Apple wouldn't be using an x86 chip like a regular pc.. the chip would be the Itanium according to the article, since it's a 64 bit chip it would rival the already anticipated 64 bit chip coming to apple from IBM probably this summer. Why would they switch to Intel when IBM already has something for them? (even though it's taking forever).
3. There will (almost guaranteed) no way that you will be able to build your own OS X box. That is one of apples strong points = things just work, and if you just throw together parts from tons of companies, chances are that it won't work quite like an Apple machine.
4. This has been a rumor for years only because people want it, but apple won't do it. They make money on hardware, not software. That's why, even though their iLife apps are cool, they almost free.
- kpl0
get over it T. I've been a PC guy for most of my life, I know what I'm talking about. I know more about PCs than Macs actually.
if you have beef about what I say, then say why it's wrong. don't get on my case then agree with me that it's anarchy.
- kpl0
besides, I know some programmers who work in linux but prefer macs for their personal machines. Even back in the os classic days. It was dude that put me on Macs in the first place.
- ********0
KPL: read what I wrote and try to undertand it this time. You did learn to read didnt you?
- kpl0
"all this 'anarchy' gives a machine that is a helluva alot cheaper,"
I'm sorry. I guess I didn't miss the "is not anarchy" that you didn't type.
- kpl0
btw, thanks for turning this into a mac vs pc thread. we really needed another one of those.
- jox0
Fortunately i talked my way out of it before it happened :)
- djenders0
I just made the switch. I struggled with buying a MAc desktop for testing & design as well as a laptop for portability. I finally caved and bought a Powerbook. Turns out I love it. The initial cost of buying all new apps was a pain in the ass but other then that, no problems.
Although I don't really have problems with my XP machine either, but now I can test on all platforms easily. And instead of VirtualPC I chose to Term Serv into my XP machine at home. Works great for my server as well.
Now I can design on the Mac as well as code .Net. Beautiful!
Only problem I have is with Flash MX. I can't seem to DOCK my Actions palette like I can on a PC. And I haven't found a way to have Virtual Desktops so I could easily switch between the Timeline and Actions and back to the Main Stage.
Anyone?
Dennis.
- unknown0
Nirvous:
Mebbe you Mackers can get some speed now.......without the jet engine fan noise.
T my last gig we stuck our Mac people in another room to keep em quiet. :)That is funny, wehre I work we have the oposite problem, what kind of macs do tyou guys have there..
we where thinking in switching everything to mac because of noise, (and other stuff of course) but we will keep a pc, they are run quickbooks better..
:)
- Nirvous0
It was a strange situation. Pcs in one room and Apples in another room. They "said" it was for networking, but we all know it was because the g4 fans sounded like they were about to take off and fly around the room.
If Apple makes a faster machine I might get a box....until then I will live in anarchy :)
- unknown0
To show my opinion on this matter.
http://www.uniquent.com/pcvsmac.…
It simply can't be measured. Price, technology, RAMmmmmmm and of course awesome games to get away from design and programming.
Hahahaha....Mac can suck my...
- cell7dotORG0
earlier in this thread I saw a few posts that people were stating the Macs would have more speed now & moving to Intel would make them faster? I use at work both PC's and Macs, the G4 800 is faster than my P4 1.2
Risc rules over x86 (IMO)